Light Diffraction physics problem

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem related to light diffraction, specifically focusing on the diffraction of visible light at different wavelengths and the angles associated with them. Participants are exploring how to calculate the angles of diffraction for wavelengths of 400 nm and 700 nm, aiming for a specific angular spread.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are attempting to apply the diffraction equation but express uncertainty about how to determine the specific angles for the given wavelengths. There is a discussion about the requirement for the angular spread between the two wavelengths and how to express this mathematically.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants offering insights into the relationship between wavelength, angle, and spacing. Some guidance has been provided regarding the need to derive equations for the angles based on the diffraction condition, but no consensus has been reached on the specific calculations.

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Homework Statement
You have project in your physics class to build a diffraction grating. The key component is that you need to disperse visible light over a 30-degress spread at the first order. Visible light has a range of 400-700nm. How many lines per mm do you need for your diffraction grating?
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mλ =dsin(Θ)
Been trying to figure this problem out for a couple hours now, if i use 400 nm into the equation it comes out to 800: 400=sin(30). If i do 700 nm it comes out to 1400: 700=sin(30).

I feel like i’m doing somethingwrong with the problem but i can’t figure out what.
 
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you need to disperse visible light over a 30-degress spread at the first order
This means that the difference between the diffraction angles for 400 nm and 700 nm needs to be 30°, not that either of those angles needs to be 30°. For example (just making up numbers here!) you might end up with something like θ = 22° for λ = 400 nm and θ = 52° for λ = 700 nm, for a spread of 52° - 22° = 30°.
 
The thing is though, i don't know how to determine what those angles would be.
 
Tkdmaster said:
The thing is though, i don't know how to determine what those angles would be.
Suppose you choose a spacing d. Through what angles will the extremes of visible light be diffracted (to the first order)?
 
Call the extreme wavelengths ##\lambda_1## and ##\lambda_2##. They diffract through angles ##\theta_1## and ##\theta_2##. Can you write an equation that gives the spread in angles, ##\theta_2 - \theta_1##, in terms of ##\lambda_1##, ##\lambda_2##, and ##d##? That is, ##\theta_2 - \theta_1 = \cdots##
 
Like 700-400=dsin(theta2-theta1)?
 
No, you can't do it by simply substituting ##\theta_2 - \theta_1## for ##\theta##, and ##\lambda_2 - \lambda_1## for ##\lambda##.

Start with your diffraction equation ##\lambda = d \sin \theta##. Solve it (rearrange it) to get a new equation ##\theta = \cdots##.

Now, using your numbers, you actually have two of these equations: ##\theta_1 = \cdots## and ##\theta_2 = \cdots##. Subtract one from the other to get ##\theta_2 - \theta_1 = \cdots## with ##d## somewhere on the right-hand side.
 

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