Light Intensity Model: Showing Minimal Difference at Off Point

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around modeling light intensity in a scenario where a light bulb directly above a desk is switched off, while surrounding bulbs remain on. Participants explore how this configuration affects the intensity of light at the off point and whether switching the bulb on will significantly change the light intensity experienced at that location.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks assistance in modeling the light intensity at a specific point when a bulb is switched off, questioning the impact of turning it on.
  • Another participant suggests that the effect of turning off one light depends on the distance from the array of lights, indicating that if the desk is far away, the reduction in illumination would be approximately 1/9, while being closer would result in a more significant change.
  • A later reply emphasizes the importance of the inverse square law in understanding light intensity changes based on distance.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about their understanding of the physics involved and requests additional resources for clarification.
  • Another participant reiterates the inverse square law, noting that the height of the lights relative to the desk affects the intensity change when a bulb is switched on.
  • A participant provides a mathematical perspective, stating that the intensity of each light source is proportional to \(\frac{1}{d^2}\) and discusses how to calculate total illumination based on distances from the light sources.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the relevance of the inverse square law and the impact of distance on light intensity; however, there are varying interpretations regarding the specific effects of switching the bulb on and the significance of distance in this context. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact modeling approach and its implications.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention fixed distances between lights and the height of the lights but do not provide specific values or assumptions that could affect the modeling. There is also a lack of consensus on the extent of the intensity change when the bulb is switched on.

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Can someone assist with a simple model for the following question? I have looked on the net but cannot find anything on it.

Say you are sat at a desk with the light bulb directly above you switched off and the rest on; so:

on - on - on
on - off - on
on - on - on

Each at distance r apart with the light intensity at each point the same (say I)

I wish to model the intensity of light at the off point and show that just switching the bulb at this point will have very little difference to the intensity of light here point regardless if the bulb at that piont was switched on or off.

I wish to double check my working to see if I am on the right track. Many thanks,
 
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It depends on how far the desk is from the array of lights. If far away (compared to r) turning off 1 light reduces the illumination by 1/9. If close to array it will be more. Essentially you need to use the inverse square law.
 
mathman said:
It depends on how far the desk is from the array of lights. If far away (compared to r) turning off 1 light reduces the illumination by 1/9. If close to array it will be more. Essentially you need to use the inverse square law.

Thank you for your reply. How did you come to this result? I am very rusty on my Physics at the moment.

Lets say the distance between the each light is fixed and at r distance apart. The height distance is h; if I have understood your reply and I failed to consider that aspect. I do not think that would be a major issue though.

Can you refer me to a link or a book that explains the above scenario. I cannot find one at present that explains what I am trying to solve,

 
S.1.B said:
Can someone assist with a simple model for the following question? I have looked on the net but cannot find anything on it.

Say you are sat at a desk with the light bulb directly above you switched off and the rest on; so:

on - on - on
on - off - on
on - on - on

Each at distance r apart with the light intensity at each point the same (say I)

I wish to model the intensity of light at the off point and show that just switching the bulb at this point will have very little difference to the intensity of light here point regardless if the bulb at that piont was switched on or off.

I wish to double check my working to see if I am on the right track.Many thanks,

S.1.B said:
Thank you for your reply. How did you come to this result? I am very rusty on my Physics at the moment.

Lets say the distance between the each light is fixed and at r distance apart. The height distance is h; if I have understood your reply and I failed to consider that aspect. I do not think that would be a major issue though.

Can you refer me to a link or a book that explains the above scenario. I cannot find one at present that explains what I am trying to solve,

Just search on "Inverse Square Law" for light. mathman's point is that if the ceiling with the lights is 10cm over your head, switching on the middle bulb 10cm over your head will increase the light for you quite a bit. If the ceiling is several meters away, you will see a smaller increase in intensity.
 
Intensity of each light source is proportional to \frac{1}{d^2}. Total illumination is sum over all sources. Overhead d^2=h^2, four nearest to overhead - each d^2=h^2+r^2, four corners - each d^2=h^2+2r^2.
 
Thanks both for your help.
 

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