Light Speed in Vacuum vs Media: A Question

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the behavior of light as it transitions between different media, specifically focusing on whether light retains its speed when exiting a medium like water and entering a vacuum. The scope includes conceptual understanding of light propagation in various media and the underlying physical principles.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that light will return to its maximum speed in a vacuum, regardless of its previous medium.
  • One participant questions this by drawing an analogy with an arrow, suggesting that light does not regain its speed after exiting a medium.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of understanding light as a wave, indicating that the speed of a wave is determined by the medium it is in.
  • A participant raises the question of whether light slows down due to absorption and re-emission by atoms in the medium.
  • Some participants argue that light slows down in a medium due to the presence of ions, while others challenge this explanation, questioning how ions affect light speed.
  • One participant suggests that the slowing of light in a medium might be related to atomic behavior, potentially requiring a quantum-mechanical perspective.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on how light behaves when transitioning between media, with no consensus reached on the mechanisms behind the speed of light in various materials.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the assumptions regarding the role of ions and atomic interactions in the propagation of light through different media, leaving some claims open to interpretation.

HyperUniverse
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Hi,

I know the speed of light is the highest in vacuum.
And in any other mediums is a bit slower.

I just want to know...
...if a light passes through a medium (water let's say) and comes out in vacuum, will it retain the same speed as it had in the water, or will it increase back to its maximum speed?


Thanks.
 
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The light will have its usual (maximum) speed in a vacuum, regardless of where it came from.
 
Could you be a bit more explicit, please?
Has anybody done such tests? Where can I read more about?

Because I take it like this...let's imagine that we shoot an arrow through the air.
Then the arrow passes through "a floating ball of water" (just imagine it).
Then it comes out of this water, back into the air.

Obviously, when it passed through the water its speed was slower, but when it came out of the water and back into the air, it did not increase its speed back to what it was before entering the water...


So how the light will increase its speed back to maximum when leaving the water?

Thanks
 
HyperUniverse said:
So how the light will increase its speed back to maximum when leaving the water?
Think of light as a wave, not as an object like an arrow. The speed of a wave depends only on the characteristics of the media its traveling through at any given moment, not on where it's been. In that respect, light acts like any other wave. But for light, the maximum speed is attained when traveling through a vacuum.
 
Does light ever "slow down" or is it merely absorbed and re-emitted by the atoms of the media it is passing through with the time this takes slowing down the overall "speed"?
 
The reason light is slower in a medium is not because it is being absorbed and re-emitted.
It is slower simply because of the presence of ions.
 
BruceW said:
The reason light is slower in a medium is not because it is being absorbed and re-emitted.
It is slower simply because of the presence of ions.

How would ions slow down light? The implication is that a bulk material with no ions would allow light to travel at the same speed as in a vacuum, this doesn't seem correct.
 
In a plasma, the EM wave gets slowed down because of the presence of ions. I guess I assumed that it would be a similar reason for the slowing of an EM wave in normal matter.
But maybe it is slowed down because each of the atoms act slightly like a dipole (which would require a quantum-mechanical treatment?)
 

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