Light waves propagate with no medium

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The discussion centers on the concept that the luminiferous aether does not exist, leading to questions about whether the electromagnetic field itself acts as a medium for light waves. It clarifies that while the electromagnetic field permeates space, it differs from a traditional medium made of material particles. The participants agree that the term "field" does not equate to "ether" or a physical substance. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding these distinctions in physics. Overall, the thread emphasizes the evolving understanding of light propagation in the absence of a material medium.
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I have come to accept that the luminiferous aether does not exist.

When we say that the electromagnetic wave is an oscillation of the electromagnetic field, then is not the electromagnetic field itself a medium that permeates all space?

This is probably a dumb question, but I am as dumb as I look!
 
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It was a dumb question then?

I suppose the answer is that a medium for other waves is made of material particles and the electromagnetic field is not.
 
No, it is not a dumb question but it was only 3 and a half hours since you posted it. People don't sit around waiting for someone to post a question.

As to your question, yes, the "electromagnetic field" is a field that permeates space. But a "field" is not the same thing as "ether" or some actual material.
 
Thanks for the response HallsofIvy,
3 and a half hours, I must move fast because it seemed like an eternity to me. (This excuse never washes for my gain in mass over the years either)
I am always happy to wait for the excellent responses on physics forums, I guess on reading around in the other threads I thought I had asked a really dumb question.

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=86691

I came across this old thread and really enjoyed the direction this has sent me in.
 
MOVING CLOCKS In this section, we show that clocks moving at high speeds run slowly. We construct a clock, called a light clock, using a stick of proper lenght ##L_0##, and two mirrors. The two mirrors face each other, and a pulse of light bounces back and forth betweem them. Each time the light pulse strikes one of the mirrors, say the lower mirror, the clock is said to tick. Between successive ticks the light pulse travels a distance ##2L_0## in the proper reference of frame of the clock...

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