How Does Gravity Propagate Through Different Mediums and Energy Fields?

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The discussion revolves around the propagation of gravitational waves through different mediums and energy fields, exploring how these waves behave when interacting with material substances and gravitational influences, such as those from neutron stars. Participants examine the effects of various properties of mediums on gravitational wave speed and behavior.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that gravity propagates at the speed of light in a vacuum and questions how gravitational waves are affected by material mediums, including the factors that might influence this, such as density.
  • Another participant suggests that the weak-field approximation should be considered with a non-vanishing energy-momentum tensor of the medium, proposing an exercise to analyze a simple fluid's impact on gravitational wave propagation.
  • A participant expresses uncertainty about the propagation of gravitational waves through materials and suggests starting with linearized equations to explore potential insights.
  • A later reply references a source discussing that while there is a theoretical effect on the speed of gravitational waves in matter, it is deemed insignificant for practical observational purposes. It notes that intervening matter does not scatter, refract, or diffract gravitational waves, but large masses can gravitationally lens them, similar to light.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the specifics of how gravitational waves propagate through different mediums, with multiple viewpoints and uncertainties expressed regarding the effects of various factors.

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Limitations include the dependence on the weak-field approximation and the assumptions regarding the properties of the mediums being considered. The discussion also highlights unresolved mathematical steps related to the analysis of gravitational wave behavior.

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It is clear that gravity propagates at the speed of light in the vacuum. But what happens to gravitational waves as they propagate through material mediums? Presumably they get slowed down but, is it known precisely how much and by which factors, density of the medium or any other properties?

And what if the gravitational waves propagate through a region of space which is itself 'warped' by gravity (by say, a neutron star or whatever).

Or are they affected for example by heavy electromagnetic fields, in a similar (reciprocal) way as EM radiation is affected (bent) by gravity?

In summary, how good is our understanding of the propagation of gravity through mediums other than the perfect vacuum, and through other energy fields?

Thanks!
 
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Just a quickie: you need to take the weak-field approx. with a non-vanishing energy-momentum tensor of the medium. Could be an interesting exercise to do that for e.g. a simple fluid and see what kind of equation you end up with.
 
Gerinski said:
But what happens to gravitational waves as they propagate through material mediums?
Really great question.

I don't know the answer, but where I would start is by looking at the linearized equations and see if there is anything that would give an indication.
 
The following discusses propagation of GW through matter in section five. The overall conclusion is that, in principle, there is a tiny affect on speed, but that it is insignificant in practice. For observational purposes, you can say intervening matter does not scatter, refract, nor diffract GW. However, a large mass can gravitationally lens GW, just as if it were light (this follows from the geometrical optics approximation being valid, as demonstrated in section four of this reference.)

https://www.lorentz.leidenuniv.nl/lorentzchair/thorne/Thorne1.pdf
 
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