lim x-->0 ##\frac{x tan2x -2xtanx} {(1-cos2x)^2}##

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the limit of a function involving trigonometric identities and simplifications as x approaches 0. The subject area includes calculus, specifically limits and trigonometric functions.

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  • Participants discuss simplifications of the limit expression and question the validity of these transformations. There are inquiries about the application of L'Hôpital's Rule and Taylor expansion, as well as concerns regarding discrepancies in the graphs of the simplified functions.

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Participants are actively exploring different approaches to the limit problem, with some suggesting alternative methods while others express confusion over the simplifications made. There is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or resolution of the discrepancies noted.

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There are indications of potential mistakes in simplifications and questions about the implications of changing domains, as well as the importance of evaluating expressions at specific points.

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I simplified this function to
##\frac{1}{2} (\frac{x tan^3(x)} {(sin²x)²(1-tan²x)}##
Now further can I not write ##1-tan²x## as ##\frac{cos2x} {sin²x}## ?

If I do that I get ##\frac{1}{2} (\frac{x tan^3(x)} {sin²x cos2x}##

On graphing this on desmos I get two different graphs for these functions
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My first simplification matches with the original function but the second one doesnt and hence doesnt fetch me the correct liming value. whys this?
 
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Why don’t you apply L'hopital's Rule ? Or Taylor’s expansion. X^4 order seems to mater.
 
anuttarasammyak said:
Why don’t you apply L'hopital's Rule ? Or Taylor’s expansion. X^4 order seems to mater.
Yes but I dont get why my simplification yields a different function? Is it because the domain has changed of the function?(if it has at all)
 
tellmesomething said:
My first simplification matches with the original function but the second one doesnt and hence doesnt fetch me the correct liming value. whys this?
Obviously, you made a mistake somewhere. I don't know how you expect us to find the mistake if you don't show us your work.
 
tellmesomething said:
Now further can I not write ##1-tan²x## as ##\frac{cos2x} {sin²x}## ?
Evaluate these two at x=0. They are not equal.
 
I got
\frac{1}{2}\frac{x}{\sin x}\frac{1}{(2\cos^2 x-1)\cos x}
I hope it will help your check.
 
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