Limit of (e^x - e^-x - 2x)/(x - sinx) | How To Solve

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The problem involves evaluating the limit of the expression (e^x - e^-x - 2x)/(x - sinx) as x approaches 0. The subject area pertains to calculus, specifically limits and indeterminate forms.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the application of L'Hôpital's rule due to the 0/0 indeterminate form. Questions arise regarding the evaluation of e^{-0} and its equivalence to 0, as well as the derivatives involved in the limit process.

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The discussion includes various attempts to apply L'Hôpital's rule, with participants sharing their calculations and questioning each other's steps. There is recognition of the complexity in the limit evaluation, particularly regarding the equivalence of certain expressions as x approaches 0.

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Some participants express confusion over the interpretation of limits and the behavior of exponential functions at 0, highlighting the nuances in calculus that may not be immediately clear.

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Homework Statement



[tex]\lim_{x \to 0} \frac{e^x - e^{-x} - 2x}{x - sinx}[/tex]


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Do I need to do a l'hopital?
 
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Why are you asking? It's 0/0 form, isn't it?
 
What do I do with a [tex]e^{-0}[/tex]? Is that the same as just 0
 
zeion said:
What do I do with a [tex]e^{-0}[/tex]? Is that the same as just 0

Sure. -0 is the same as 0. What's e^0?
 
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Ok so I do some l'hops and I get this

[tex]\frac {e^x + e^{-x} - x}{1 - cosx} = \frac {e^x - e^{-x} - 1}{sinx} = \frac {1-1-1}{1} = -1[/tex]
 
zeion said:
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Ok so I do some l'hops and I get this

[tex]\frac {e^x + e^{-x} - x}{1 - cosx} = \frac {e^x - e^{-x} - 1}{sinx} = \frac {1-1-1}{1} = -1[/tex]

Look at your first step. Since when is the derivative of 2x equal to x?
 
zeion said:
What do I do with a [tex]e^{-0}[/tex]? Is that the same as just 0

Dick said:
Sure. -0 is the same as 0. What's e^0?

Just to clarify, e-0 = e0 = 1. I believe Dick understood what you meant, zeion, even though you didn't ask the question clearly. IOW e-0 is not the same as 0.
 
Ok sorry so I get like
[tex]\frac {e^x + e^{-x} -2}{1-cosx} = \frac {e^x - e^{-x}}{sinx} = \frac {e^x + e^{-x}}{cosx} = 2?[/tex]
 
zeion said:
Ok sorry so I get like
[tex]\frac {e^x + e^{-x} -2}{1-cosx} = \frac {e^x - e^{-x}}{sinx} = \frac {e^x + e^{-x}}{cosx} = 2?[/tex]

I feel like I'm reading a book called "Mathematical Calculations in the Twilight Zone". :smile:
 
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zeion said:
Ok sorry so I get like
[tex]\frac {e^x + e^{-x} -2}{1-cosx} = \frac {e^x - e^{-x}}{sinx} = \frac {e^x + e^{-x}}{cosx} = 2?[/tex]

That's the right answer, but elect_eng makes a good point. Those quantities AREN'T equal. The LIMITS as x->0 of those quantities are equal. That's what makes it spooky to read.
 

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