Limit of ln(complex): Find Derivative at x=0

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the limit of the natural logarithm of a complex fraction as x approaches 0, specifically ln((1 - (ix/z))/(1 + (ix/z))). Participants are exploring the derivative of this expression at x=0.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to use Taylor series to find the derivative and questions the validity of taking derivatives involving imaginary numbers. Other participants clarify the limit expression and confirm the constant nature of z, while also discussing the implications of using partial derivatives.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants clarifying the limit expression and confirming the derivative calculations. There appears to be a productive exchange of ideas regarding the treatment of constants and derivatives in the context of complex functions.

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Participants are navigating language barriers and ensuring clarity in mathematical expressions. The original poster's understanding of the limit and derivative is being refined through feedback.

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Homework Statement



The limit of ln([tex]\frac{1-\frac{ix}{z}}{1+\frac{ix}{z}}[/tex]) as x goes to 0

The Attempt at a Solution


I am using taylor where f = [tex]\frac{1-\frac{ix}{z}}{1+\frac{ix}{z}}[/tex]
f'(0) -[tex]\frac{2i}{z}[/tex]

Is this correct? Can you take the derivative just as equations without imaginary numbers?
 
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write the equation clearly.
 
I am sorry, but English is not my native language. What does "write the equation clearly" mean?
 
MaxManus said:

Homework Statement



The limit of ln([tex]\frac{1-\frac{ix}{z}}{1+\frac{ix}{z}}[/tex]) as x goes to 0


The Attempt at a Solution


I am using taylor where f = [tex]\frac{1-\frac{ix}{z}}{1+\frac{ix}{z}}[/tex]
f'(0) -[tex]\frac{2i}{z}[/tex]

Is this correct? Can you take the derivative just as equations without imaginary numbers?

rsa58 means "write the limit expression clearly."

What you have written looks like
[tex]\lim_{x \to 0} \frac{ln(1 - \frac{ix}{z})}{1 + \frac{ix}{z}}[/tex]

I think that your limit expression is really this:
[tex]\lim_{x \to 0} ln \left(\frac{1 - \frac{ix}{z}}{1 + \frac{ix}{z}}\right)[/tex]

You can see my LaTeX script by double-clicking either of the limit expressions above.
 
Thanks, yes I ment the last one
[tex] \lim_{x \to 0} ln \left(\frac{1 - \frac{ix}{z}}{1 + \frac{ix}{z}}\right)[/tex]
 
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Is z a constant in your expression? If not, I think you need to use partial derivatives.
 
Yes, it is a constant.
 
Then I also get f'(0) = -2i/z
 
Thanks
 

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