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The discussion revolves around evaluating the limits of two sequences: \( \frac{e^n}{\pi^{n/2}} \) and \( \left(\frac{2}{n}\right)^n \). Participants explore convergence and divergence of these sequences, employing various mathematical techniques and reasoning.

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  • Participants discuss taking out factors and applying L'Hôpital's rule to evaluate limits. There is an exploration of the form of limits and the implications of different approaches, particularly regarding the second sequence.

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There is ongoing exploration of the limits, with some participants questioning the application of L'Hôpital's rule and discussing the nature of indeterminate forms. Guidance is offered regarding the treatment of exponents in limits, and multiple interpretations are being considered.

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Some participants express uncertainty about their reasoning and the correctness of their approaches, indicating a need for clarification on the application of limit properties and forms.

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Homework Statement


1) e^n / pi^(n/2)
2) (2/n)^n

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution



1) Take out 1/pi^0.5 as a factor

Now have limit of (e/pi)^n

Since this ratio is less than 1, it will converge?

Ooops, dw about this one, realized my mistake ^^

2) e ^ limit ( n* ln (2/n))

e ^ limit ( ln(2/n) / ( 1 / n))

Apply l'hopital's rule, end up with e ^ n
Hence it will diverge?
 
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dan38 said:

Homework Statement


1) e^n / pi^(n/2)
2) (2/n)^n

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution



1) Take out 1/pi^0.5 as a factor

Now have limit of (e/pi)^n

Since this ratio is less than 1, it will converge?

Ooops, dw about this one, realized my mistake ^^

2) e ^ limit ( n* ln (2/n))

e ^ limit ( ln(2/n) / ( 1 / n))

Apply l'hopital's rule, end up with e ^ n
Hence it will diverge?
For (1):

Notice that [itex]\displaystyle \frac{e^n}{\pi^{n/2}}=\left(\frac{e}{\sqrt{\pi}}\right)^{n}[/itex]
 
yeah lol I realized after I posted, hence the edit :D
any ideas about the second one?
not sure what I've done wrong
 
dan38 said:
2) e ^ limit ( n* ln (2/n))

e ^ limit ( ln(2/n) / ( 1 / n))

Apply l'hopital's rule, end up with e ^ n
Hence it will diverge?
[itex]\displaystyle \lim_{n\to\infty} \frac{\ln(2/n}{1/n}[/itex] is of the form [itex]\displaystyle \frac{-\infty}{0}\,,[/itex] so L'Hôpital's rule can't be applied.

[itex]\displaystyle n\,\ln\left(\frac{2}{n}\right)=n\left(\ln(2)-\ln(n)\right)[/itex]

What's that limit as n → ∞ ?
 
Wouldnt that just be infinity :S
 
dan38 said:
Wouldnt that just be infinity :S

More like -∞ .

But that's the exponent on e ... so that gives ____ ?
 
ohhh I see
so it equals 0, thanks!
 
just thought of something else; would this way work?

lim (2/n)^n
n---> Infinity

(lim 2/n)^n


lim 2/n = 0

(lim 2/n)^n = 0 as well?
 
dan38 said:
just thought of something else; would this way work?

lim (2/n)^n
n---> Infinity

(lim 2/n)^nlim 2/n = 0

(lim 2/n)^n = 0 as well?

No, you can't do that.

You have taken the n which is an exponent out of the limit.

[STRIKE]You can't do it even if you look at it as [itex]\displaystyle \left(\lim_{n\to\infty}\frac{2}{n}\right)^{ \displaystyle \left( \lim_{n\to\infty} \,n\right)}\ .[/itex] [/STRIKE]

[STRIKE]That's of the indeterminate form 0.[/STRIKE]

Added in Edit:

See the following post. Infinitum is correct, 0 is not of indeterminate form.
 
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SammyS said:
No, you can't do that.

You have taken the n which is an exponent out of the limit.

You can't do it even if you look at it as [itex]\displaystyle \left(\lim_{n\to\infty}\frac{2}{n}\right)^{ \displaystyle \left( \lim_{n\to\infty} \,n\right)}\ .[/itex]

That's of the indeterminate form 0.


Hi SammyS! :smile:

I'm quite sure that [itex]0^{\infty}[/itex] is not indeterminate, and is equal to 0.
 
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Infinitum said:
Hi SammyS! :smile:

I'm quite sure that [itex]0^{\infty}[/itex] is not indeterminate, and is equal to 0.

Yes, you are correct!

I had just come back to Edit my post, when I saw yours.

GOOD CATCH !
 
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so what I have done is okay?
 
  • #13
dan38 said:
so what I have done is okay?

Well, you should also have a limit on your exponent.
 

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