Limit problem using l'hopital's rule

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the limit \(\lim_{x\rightarrow2}\frac{x\sqrt{x-1}-2}{x-2}\) using various approaches, including L'Hôpital's rule and algebraic manipulation.

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  • Some participants discuss applying L'Hôpital's rule, questioning whether it is necessary or if simpler methods could be used. Others suggest rationalizing the numerator or changing variables to simplify the limit.

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Participants are exploring different methods to approach the limit, with some expressing confidence in L'Hôpital's rule while others propose alternative strategies. There is an ongoing exchange of ideas regarding the effectiveness of these methods.

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It is noted that the problem specifically requests the use of L'Hôpital's rule, which influences the direction of the discussion.

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Homework Statement



\lim_{x\rightarrow2}\frac{x\sqrt{x-1}-2}{x-2}


Homework Equations



calculate the limit

The Attempt at a Solution



When I apply l'hopital's i have to do derivative of the top over derivative of the bottom right?
 
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mtayab1994 said:

Homework Statement



\lim_{x\rightarrow2}\frac{x\sqrt{x-1}-2}{x-2}


Homework Equations



calculate the limit

The Attempt at a Solution



When I apply l'hopital's i have to do derivative of the top over derivative of the bottom right?
Yes .
 
You could use L'Hopital but I would consider that "overkill". Instead, rationalize the numerator and factor:

\frac{x\sqrt{x- 1}- 2}{x- 2}\frac{x\sqrt{x- 1}+ 2}{x\sqrt{x- 1}+ 2}= \frac{x^2(x- 1)- 4}{(x- 2)(x\sqrt{x- 1}+ 2)}= \frac{x^3- x^2- 4}{(x- 1)(x\sqrt{x- 1}+ 2)}
\frac{(x- 2)(x^2+ x+ 2)}{(x- 2)(x\sqrt{x- 1}- 2)}= \frac{x^2+ x+ 2}{x\sqrt{x- 1}+ 2}

Now, let x= 2.

(We knew it would factor that way precisely because x= 2 made both numerator and denominator equal to 0.)
 
Another alternative:


Let \ x \ =\ y^2 + 1.



As \ \ x\to 2, \ \ y \to 1.


\lim_{y \to 1} \dfrac{(y^2 + 1)\sqrt{y^2} - 2}{(y^2 + 1) - 2} \ =

\lim_{y \to 1}\dfrac{|y|(y^2 + 1) - 2}{y^2 - 1} \ = \

\lim_{y \to 1}\dfrac{y(y^2 + 1) - 2}{y^2 - 1} \ ** \ = \

\lim_{y \to 1}\dfrac{y^3 + y - 2}{y^2 - 1} \ = \

\lim_{y \to 1}\dfrac{(y - 1)(y^2 + y + 2)}{(y - 1)(y + 1)} \ = \

\lim_{y \to 1}\dfrac{y^2 + y + 2}{y + 1}


Continue . . .





** \ Note: \ \ \ As \ \ y \ \ is \ \ positive \ \ near \ \ 1, \ \ |y| = y.
 
I used L'Hopital's rule, and I think it's actually simpler in this case. The derivative of the denominator is 1, the derivative of the constant 2 is 0 so ...
 
zhandele said:
I used L'Hopital's rule,
and I think it's actually simpler in this case.

The derivative of the denominator is 1, \ \ \ \ Yes, \ \ so \ \ evidently \ \ you're \ \ done \ \ discussing \ \ the \ \ denominator.


the derivative of the constant 2 is 0 \ \ \ \ No, \ \ if \ \ you \ \ are \ \ now \ \ discussing \ \ the \ \ numerator,you \ \ are \ \ to \ \ be \ \ taking \ \ the \ \ derivative \ \ of \ \ \ x\sqrt{x - 1} - 2.
And \ \ that \ \ derivative\ \ is \ \ not \ \ equal \ \ to \ \ zero.



so ...

...
 
I meant that the derivative of the constant -2 (which appears in the numerator) is 0, so we just have to use the product rule to take the derivative of x*sqrt(x-1). The result,

√(x-1) + (x/2)*((√(x-1))^(-1))

... sorry I don't have practice entering these equations on this system ... but now you can just sub in x = 2 and the limit falls right out.

√(2-1)+(2/2)*((√(2-1)^(-1))

√1 + (1)*(1/√1)= 2

what could be simpler?

I hope I put in the right number of parens.
 
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Yes I solved it guys thanks for the help. By the way the problem stated on solving it using l'hopital's rule
 

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