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The discussion revolves around a limit problem involving the expression \(\lim_{x\to \frac{\pi}{4}} [\tan(\frac{\pi}{8} + x)]^{\tan(2x)}\). Participants are examining the relationship between the provided solution and the limit, particularly focusing on the derivation of the limit resulting in \(e\).

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  • Participants express confusion regarding the initial workings shown in the image and their relevance to the limit. There are questions about how the limit leads to \(e\) and the validity of substituting \(\frac{\pi}{4}\) directly into the expression. Some suggest that the limit should be expressed in a different form to evaluate it properly.

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The discussion is ongoing, with multiple participants expressing their puzzlement over the problem. Some have offered insights into the need for a different approach to evaluate the limit, while others are questioning the clarity of the original question and its solution.

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Participants note the complexity of the problem and the potential for circular reasoning in the methods discussed. There is also mention of the limitations of directly substituting values into the limit expression, particularly concerning the behavior of the tangent function.

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i added a file with a question and a solution from my book

i added in te file some questions about their solution

its a high resolution picture
you can zoom on it.

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I have absolutely NO idea how the working at the beginning of the picture relates to showing \lim_{x\to 0} (1+x)^{1/x} = e.

However the e limit is quite easy to show if you use the nice property of the natural logarithm, \log_e \lim_{x\to a} f(x) = \lim_{x\to a} \log_e f(x). In other words, you can interchange the order of limits and logs.

EDIT: O I did forget to mention you might have to use \ln(1+x)=\sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac{(-1)^{n+1}}{n} x^n = x - \frac{x^2}{2} + \frac{x^3}{3} - \cdots \quad{\rm for}\quad \left|x\right| \leq 1\quad {\rm unless}\quad x = -1, and some people may see that method as somewhat circular, depending on what definitions are used, what is already proved etc etc. But it should be fine.
 
i am puzzled too about it

how did they get "e"?

and why the solution of just input (pi/4) instead of X doesn't work?
that way we get (2.41)^0 that's an possible answer to?
 
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What I am puzzled about is what that chunk of working is even about? It doesn't seem to relate to the second part, and even that chunk in itself seems to be quite confusing. Just state the original question first please.
 
the question is:

lim [tg(pi/8 + x) ] ^ (tg 2x )

x->(pi/4)
 
transgalactic said:
i am puzzled too about it

how did they get "e"?

and why the solution of just input (pi/4) instead of X doesn't work?
that way we get (2.41)^0 that's an possible answer to?

well u cannot actually do that, because tan(pi/2) is not 0 but infinity,so any number raised to the power of infinity is actually undefined. so u have to express it in the form

e^tg2x ln tg(pi/8 +x)

and then take the limit as x-->pi/4
 
i can't figure out a way to solve this question??
 

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