Limits of exponential functions

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the limit of the expression (3^n/2^n) as n approaches infinity, focusing on the behavior of exponential functions and their logarithmic transformations.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the transformation of the expression into exponential form and question the implications of the limit leading to infinity. There is also a discussion on the nature of logarithms and the behavior of the expression as n increases.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided alternative approaches to the limit, suggesting a simpler method using properties of exponents. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of the logarithmic results and how they relate to the limit's value.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential confusion regarding the definitions and behaviors of limits involving infinity and zero, as well as the implications of logarithmic properties in this context.

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Hi,

can I do the following?

If I am asked to find as lim x -> inf of (3^n/2^n), can I do:

3^n = e^(n*ln3)
2^n = e^(n*ln2)

assume C = lim (3^n/2^n).

C = lim e^(n*ln3)/e^(n*ln2)
ln C = lim ln [(exp(n*ln3)/(exp(n*ln2)]
In C = lim ln(exp(n*ln3)) - ln(exp(n*ln2))
ln C = lim n*ln3 - n*ln2
ln C = lim n*(ln3 - ln2)

The right hand side is clearly inf, and hence ln C = inf, which would mean that C = inf?
Though wouldn't C = 0 also give you infinity? So how would I know which one it is?

Thanks.
 
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ln(0) isn't infinity. It's undefined. n*(ln3-ln2) is clearly unbounded. So C=exp(n*(ln3-ln2)) is unbounded.
 
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bodensee9 said:
Hi,

can I do the following?

If I am asked to find as lim x -> inf of (3^n/2^n), can I do:

3^n = e^(n*ln3)
2^n = e^(n*ln2)

assume C = lim (3^n/2^n).

C = lim e^(n*ln3)/e^(n*ln2)
ln C = lim ln [(exp(n*ln3)/(exp(n*ln2)]
In C = lim ln(exp(n*ln3)) - ln(exp(n*ln2))
ln C = lim n*ln3 - n*ln2
ln C = lim n*(ln3 - ln2)

The right hand side is clearly inf, and hence ln C = inf, which would mean that C = inf?
Though wouldn't C = 0 also give you infinity? So how would I know which one it is?

Thanks.
Why do it that way?
[tex]\frac{3^n}{2^n}= \left(\frac{3}{2}\right)^n[/tex]
and that, since 3/2> 1, clearly increases without bound as x increases.

On the other hand,
[tex]\frac{2^n}{3^n}= \left(\frac{2}{3}\right)^n[/tex]
since 2/3< 1, clearly goes to 0.

Doing it the "hard way", if y= 2n/3n, then ln(y)= ln(2n)- ln(3n)= n(ln(2)- ln(3)). ln(2)- ln(3) is negative so, as n goes to infinity, n(ln(2)- ln(3)) goes to negative infinity and, as Dick said, ln(0)= negative infinity.
 

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