Line Integral of F(x,y,z) over Unit Circle

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the line integral of a vector field F(x,y,z) over a unit circle parameterized in two dimensions. Participants are exploring the implications of working with a three-dimensional vector field while integrating over a two-dimensional path.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the challenge of matching dimensions between the vector field and the path, questioning how to handle the z-component when integrating over a 2D circle. There are attempts to clarify the implications of assuming z=0 and the necessity of defining z in the context of the problem.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the dimensionality issue. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need for a z-value to properly define the path in three dimensions, but no consensus has been reached on how to proceed with the integral.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted lack of specification regarding the z-component in the original problem statement, leading to confusion among participants about how to interpret the vector field in relation to the unit circle.

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Homework Statement


What is the line integral of F(x,y,z) = (xy, x, xyz) over the unit circle c(t) = (cost, sint) t E (0,2pi) ?


Homework Equations



integral= (f(c(t))*c'(t))dt)

The Attempt at a Solution


Ok, so I tried solving this like I would any other line integral using the given equation, but it does not work, since I am taking a 3D function on a 2D function (circle) ? So...f(c(t)) cannot be anything?? As cos t can be x, sint can be y, but what is z?? I know you take the dot product, and solve, taking the integral, but I cannot figure out how to find f(c(t)) as one function has 3 variables and the other has 2? Thanks!
 
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z is zero. The circle is (cos(t),sin(t),0). The dimensions have to match or you can't take a dot product. If one is three dimensional the other must be as well, even if they don't spell it out.
 
Ok thanks! But what if it's something like F(x,y,z)=(xy, x/z, y/z) ? Then if you plug in 0, you get a denominator of zero...
 
stanford1463 said:
Ok thanks! But what if it's something like F(x,y,z)=(xy, x/z, y/z) ? Then if you plug in 0, you get a denominator of zero...
Didn't you read Dick's response? The problem is that "c(t)= (cos(t), sin(t))" is two dimensional and you CAN'T integerate a 3 dimensional vector function over a two dimensional path. Are you interpreting that to mean that it must be (cos(t), sin(t), 0)? There is no reason to assume that because z is not mentioned, it must be 0. You MUST have some equation involving z, perhaps "z= 0", perhaps "z= 1", in order that the path be defined in three dimensions.
 
I guess I automatically think of THE Unit Circle, as lying in the x-y plane. But Halls is right, they should have specified a z value.
 

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