Line Integrals: Gradient Field and Calculations for -2,0 to 2,0 Points

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The discussion focuses on calculating line integrals for the vector field F = (3x^2 + 2y cos(xy))i + (2y + 2x cos(xy))j between the points (-2,0) and (2,0). It is established that F is a gradient field, with the potential function found to be f = x^3 + y^2 - 2sin(xy). The integral of F dot dr is zero for closed curves, but since the curve in part b is open, the integral cannot be evaluated using Stokes' theorem. Instead, the fundamental theorem of gradients is suggested for part c, emphasizing that the integral depends on the endpoints rather than the path taken. Clarification is sought on the distinction between the questions posed in parts b and c regarding the nature of the curves involved.
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Homework Statement



F = (3x2 + 2y cos(xy))i + (2y + 2x cos(xy))j

a - show that F is a gradient field

b - calculate the integral of F dot dr where c includes the points -2,0 and 2,0

c - determine the value of the integral of F dot dr where c is any curve joining -2,0 and 2,0

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The Attempt at a Solution




a..

grad f = F,

I found f = x3 + y2 - 2sin(xy)


b...

curlf F = 0, therefore the integral F dot dr = curl F dot dA = 0

c...

wouldnt that be the same as the above b
 
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joemama69 said:
a..

grad f = F,

I found f = x3 + y2 - 2sin(xy)

looks like you're off by a negative sign; \frac{d}{dx}\sin(xy)=+y\cos(xy)


b...

curlf F = 0, therefore the integral F dot dr = curl F dot dA = 0

You must have a closed path to use Stoke's theorem. Is the curve in (b) closed? It is not clear from your description of the problem...

c...

wouldnt that be the same as the above b

It sounds like you have an open curve from (-2,0) to (2,0) and so you can't use stokes theorem (an open curve does not bound a surface) try using the fundamental theorem of gradients instead...
 
Should be f = x3 + y2 + 2sin(xy) (you got the sign wrong).

For b, the integral will be zero only if C is a closed curve. Does it say that in the question?

For c, no it won't. If F = ∇f, then \int_a^b \nabla f \cdot dr = f(b) - f(a).

EDIT: Oops, gabba beat me to it.
 
b is an open curve


c is a closed curve
 
so c... should be -8 - 8 = -16 what about b
 
The curve in c is not a closed curve. It's a curve joining (-2,0) and (2,0).
 
Ok i will explain this a little better

Part B Calculate integral F dot dr where C is the picture included

Part C Determine the value of integral F dot dr where C is anycurve joining -2,0 to 2,0. Explain Reasoning


Whats the difference in the question being asked
 

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