Converting a Cartesian Integral to a Polar Integral

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The discussion revolves around converting a Cartesian integral to a polar integral, specifically focusing on the area defined by the semicircle described by the equation x = √(4 - y²) and the line y = x. Participants are examining the limits of integration in polar coordinates and the geometric interpretation of the region of integration.

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  • The original poster attempts to establish the limits of integration in polar coordinates but expresses confusion regarding the lower limit for r. Some participants question the interpretation of the intersection points and the graphical representation of the area. Others explore the relationship between the Cartesian and polar forms of the equations involved.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing insights into the geometric relationships and the implications for the limits of integration. There is recognition of the need to clarify the setup and assumptions regarding the area of integration, but no consensus has been reached on the correct limits.

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There are indications of potential misunderstandings regarding the graphical representation of the region and the corresponding limits in polar coordinates. The original poster's calculations and assumptions about the limits are being scrutinized, suggesting that further clarification may be necessary.

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Convert the following double integral to polar coordinated and evaluate:
Relevant Equations
x=rcosΘ
y=rsinΘ
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the graph of x= √4-y^2 is a semicircle or radius 2 encompassing the right half of the xy plane (containing points (0,2); (2,0); (0-2))
the graph of x=y is a straight line of slope 1

The intersection of these two graphs is (√2,√2)

y ranges from √2 to 2. Therefore, the area over which we integrate is between the line y=√2; y=2; and x=√4-y^2 as in the shaded region in this picture:

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This means that the new integral, in polar form is:

∫∫ r dr dΘ with r ranging from √2cscΘ to 2 and Θ ranging from π/4 to π/2
However, the solution is

∫∫ r dr dΘ with r ranging from 2cscΘ to 2 and Θ ranging from π/4 to π/2

I do not understand why this is the case. If y=√2, then rsinΘ = √2 => r=(√2)cscΘ. this would then be the lower limit, as r extends out to the upper limit of 2. Thank you for your assistance.
 
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From your drawing, it looks to me as though you are letting ##x## vary between ##0## and ##\sqrt {4-y^2}##.
 
:doh: Oh gosh, how embarrassing. Thank you.
 
The first thing I notice is that (\sqrt{2},\sqrt{2}) lies on the line \theta= \frac{\pi}{4} and that (0, 2) lies on the line \theta= \frac{\pi}{2}. So the "\theta" integral is from \frac{\pi}{4} to \frac{\pi}{2}. Now, for each \theta, r is measured on the line through the origin making angle \theta with the x-axis so with slope tan(\theta): y= tan(\theta)x. That line crosses y= \sqrt{2} where x= \frac{\sqrt{2}}{tan(\theta)}. r is the distance from the origin to that point: r= \sqrt{2+ 2 tan^2(\theta)}= \sqrt{2}\sqrt{1+ tan^2(\theta)}= sec(\theta). That line crosses the circle x^2+ y^2= 4 where x^2+ tan^2(\theta)x^2= sec^2(\theta)x^2= 4 or x= 2 cos(\theta), y= 2 cos(\theta)tan(\theta)= 2 sin(\theta). <br /> <br /> The integral is \int_{\pi/4}^{\pi/2} \int_{sec(\theta)}^{2 sin(\theta)} r dr d\theta.
 

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