Linear acceleration and angular acceleration

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The discussion revolves around calculating linear and angular acceleration for a yoyo, given its mass, inner and outer radii, and moment of inertia at the center of mass. Participants are exploring the relationships between torque, moment of inertia, and acceleration.

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  • Participants discuss the equations relating torque, moment of inertia, and acceleration. There are attempts to clarify the correct application of these equations, particularly regarding the use of the inner and outer radii in calculations. Questions arise about how to determine the weight of the yoyo and its effect on torque.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the variables involved. Some participants are questioning the correctness of the equations and values used, while others suggest using the parallel axis theorem to adjust the moment of inertia for the point of rotation.

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Participants are working with specific values for the yoyo's mass, inner and outer radii, and moment of inertia. There is a noted confusion regarding the application of torque and the appropriate radius to use in calculations.

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How do I solve for linear acceleration or angular acceleration without one or the other?
I am given the mass of the object (a yoyo), the inner radius, the outer radius, and Icm (moment of inertia at the center of mass).

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a=alpha *r
alpha=a/r


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The weight of the yo-yo produced a torque τ and if you did not know, τ = Iα, since you are given 'I', you can get 'α' and hence 'a' using your relevant equations.
 
How do you figure out the weight? Also the equation I have in my notes from the lecture, which I just double checked, is torque = I * alpha. Not I * a.
 
thesandalman said:
How do you figure out the weight? Also the equation I have in my notes for the lecture, which I just double checked, is torque = I * alpha. Not I * a.

α = angular acceleration
a = linear acceleration


Weight is just 'mg'
 
I do not know if I am misunderstanding you or what, but that is not the correct answer.
 
thesandalman said:
I do not know if I am misunderstanding you or what, but that is not the correct answer.

What did you have ?
 
i have torque is m*g*the outer radius = I* alpha but the answer I got was 651.7 alpha which does not make any sense for a yoyo.
 
thesandalman said:
i have torque is m*g*the outer radius = I* alpha but the answer I got was 651.7 alpha which does not make any sense for a yoyo.

Can you post the values? Also the weight does not act there, it acts at through the center. So the weight is right at the start of the inner radius. So you used the wrong radius to get the torque.
 
A yoyo with a mass of m = 179 g.
The inner radius of the yoyo is r = 2.60 cm, and the outer radius is R = 3.60 cm
ICM = 9.70×10-5 kgm2
 
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Using the smaller radius does not give the correct answer?
 
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nope.
 
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thesandalman said:
nope.

I now read that your inertia is at the center not where it rotates.

You need to use the parallel axis theorem I=Icm +md2 to get the inertia about the point where it rotates and then use the torque.
 

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