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The discussion revolves around the intersection of a parametric line defined by the equations x=3+t, y=2-4t, z=-5+11t, and a plane represented by the equation 12x+10y-4z=46. Participants are tasked with finding the point of intersection between these two geometric entities.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Some participants question the nature of the entities involved, noting that the second equation represents a plane rather than a line. Others express confusion regarding the assumption that y and z equal zero at the intersection point. There is also a discussion about the arithmetic involved in solving for the parameter t and its implications for finding x, y, and z.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on how to approach the problem by suggesting the substitution of parametric equations into the plane's equation. There is recognition of the need for clarity regarding the problem's wording and the implications of the intersection type.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the original question specifies finding a "point" of intersection, which adds to the confusion given the nature of the geometric entities involved. There are also references to previous discussions on the same topic, indicating a potential lack of clarity in the original problem statement.

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Homework Statement



1) x=3+t
y=2-4t
z=-5+11t

2)12x+10y-4z=46

Find the point where these two lines intersect.

12x+10*0-4*0=46
x=3,8...

doesn´t make any sense



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cleopatra said:

Homework Statement



1) x=3+t
y=2-4t
z=-5+11t

2)12x+10y-4z=46

Find the point where these two lines intersect.

12x+10*0-4*0=46
x=3,8...

doesn´t make any sense

For starters, you don't have two intersecting lines...2) is the equation of a plane, not a line.

Secondly, you are right: what you did doesn't make any sense...why have you assumed that y=z=0 at the point of intersection?

Just plug your parametric equations for x,y, and z into the equation of the plane and solve for t...what does that value of t make x,y and z?
 
gabbagabbahey said:
For starters, you don't have two intersecting lines...2) is the equation of a plane, not a line.

Secondly, you are right: what you did doesn't make any sense...why have you assumed that y=z=0 at the point of intersection?

Just plug your parametric equations for x,y, and z into the equation of the plane and solve for t...what does that value of t make x,y and z?

cleopatra has already been told to do this twice on the other thread dedicated to this problem.
 
Dick said:
cleopatra has already been told to do this twice on the other thread dedicated to this problem.

hmmm...yes, I see...

Cleopatra, we are not here to do your homework for you, you need to show some attempt at a solution.

And creating multiple threads for the same topic is against forum rules.
 
36+12t+20-40t+20-44t=46
t=30/76


?
 
First of all let's be clear on the question.
Does it really say "find the point where these two lines intersect"?
Because I definitely get a line of intersection.
 
yes it says "point". That´s why it confuses me as well.
 
cleopatra said:
36+12t+20-40t+20-44t=46
t=30/76?

There you go. Well done. Now you can use your value of t to find x, y and z.
Ooops. Wait a minute. t isn't 30/76. Check your arithmetic.
 
cleopatra said:
36+12t+20-40t+20-44t=46
t=30/76


?

Careful; 44+40-12=72 not 76 :wink:
 
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CompuChip said:
First of all let's be clear on the question.
Does it really say "find the point where these two lines intersect"?
Because I definitely get a line of intersection.

You might want to recheck your calculation then:wink:
 
  • #11
CompuChip said:
First of all let's be clear on the question.
Does it really say "find the point where these two lines intersect"?
Because I definitely get a line of intersection.

How do you figure? Do you mean the line lies in the plane? I don't think so.
 
  • #12
cleopatra said:
yes it says "point". That´s why it confuses me as well.

Why does this confuse you?

Imagine a sheet of paper as the plane, and your pencil as the line...if you lie your pencil flat on the paper, then the intersection is the entire line, but if you just poke a whole through the piece of paper and slide your pencil part way through it, the intersection is just a point...you can also make it so the two don't intersect at all by holding the pencil a few inches above the paper.

In this case, the line and the plane intersect at a point.
 

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