Linear Algebra exam problem: is my answer correct?

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The problem involves linear transformations f and g, where f is injective from C^n to C^m and g is onto from C^m to C^n. The task is to prove or disprove whether the composition g composed with f is an isomorphism.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the injectivity and surjectivity of the transformations, with some claiming that the proposition is false based on specific examples. Others question the implications of injectivity and surjectivity on the composition's isomorphism status.

Discussion Status

There are multiple interpretations being explored regarding the properties of the transformations and their composition. Some participants have provided examples to illustrate their points, while others are questioning the assumptions made about the mappings and their implications.

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Participants note that the definitions of injectivity and surjectivity are critical to the discussion, and there is a concern about the implications of the dimensions of the vector spaces involved. Some express uncertainty about the restrictions on the domains of the transformations.

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This was a problem on a midterm I just took.

Homework Statement



Let f and g be linear transformations such that f: C^n ---> C^m is injective and g: C^m ---> C^n is onto (C = complex numbers).

Prove or disprove with a counterexample: g composed with f is an isomorphism.

The Attempt at a Solution



I claim the proposition is false.

Let g: C^1 --> C^1 be such that g(z) ={ 0 if z=0, z -(1+i) if z does not = 0}.
Let f: C^1 --> C^1 be such that f(z) = z.

Clearly, f is injective. I claim that g is onto, since if y is complex, there exists a complex z such that g(z) = y. Namely, z = y + (1+i). However, since both g(0)=g(1+i)=0, g is not injective.

Hence, g composed with f is not injective, since g(f(0))=g(f(1+i)), and thus cannot be an isomorphism since it is not bijective (not invertible).


How does that look?
 
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diligence said:
This was a problem on a midterm I just took.

Homework Statement



Let f and g be linear transformations such that f: C^n ---> C^m is injective and g: C^m ---> C^n is onto (C = complex numbers).

Prove or disprove with a counterexample: g composed with f is an isomorphism.

The Attempt at a Solution



I claim the proposition is false.

Let g: C^1 --> C^1 be such that g(z) ={ 0 if z=0, z -(1+i) if z does not = 0}.
Let f: C^1 --> C^1 be such that f(z) = z.

Clearly, f is injective. I claim that g is onto, since if y is complex, there exists a complex z such that g(z) = y. Namely, z = y + (1+i). However, since both g(0)=g(1+i)=0, g is not injective.

Hence, g composed with f is not injective, since g(f(0))=g(f(1+i)), and thus cannot be an isomorphism since it is not bijective (not invertible).


How does that look?

Pretty bad. There's no value of z such that g(z)=(-(1+i)), so g isn't onto. And g certainly isn't linear.
 
oh damn, yeah that's brutal.

so without providing a proof, is the proposition true or false?
 
In my head I convinced myself that if g isn't injective it ruins the isomorphism but I'm starting to think that's a serious mind-lapse.
 
If g is onto then m<=n. What does f injective tell you about m and n?
 
g is onto, but in general if we restrict the domain of g to some subset of C^m, there's no reason to suspect that it remains onto as a map to C^n. f isn't necessarily onto, so it's image may be some subset of C^m, and therefore the image of g composed with f will not necessarily be all of C^n. Therefore I suspect the composition is not necessarily an isomorphism. One example you could consider, I think would be if f mapped from C^1 to C^2 where z mapped to (z,0). Then you could consider a g that maps from C^2 to C^1 mapping (z1,z2) to z2. The composition of these will map everything in C^1 to 0.
 
f inj -> ker(f)=0 -> n = m - 0 = m ---> lin trans between vect spaces of same dim is isomorphism.

ugh.
 
diligence said:
f inj -> ker(f)=0 -> n = m - 0 = m ---> lin trans between vect spaces of same dim is isomorphism.

ugh.

Sure, once you conclude m=n then both f and g are isomorphisms.
 
McCoy13 said:
g is onto, but in general if we restrict the domain of g to some subset of C^m, there's no reason to suspect that it remains onto as a map to C^n. f isn't necessarily onto, so it's image may be some subset of C^m, and therefore the image of g composed with f will not necessarily be all of C^n. Therefore I suspect the composition is not necessarily an isomorphism. One example you could consider, I think would be if f mapped from C^1 to C^2 where z mapped to (z,0). Then you could consider a g that maps from C^2 to C^1 mapping (z1,z2) to z2. The composition of these will map everything in C^1 to 0.

but we can't restrict domain of g, since 1) the domain is given as C^m and still, if we argue that f may restrict g's domain in the composition, see above for proof no.

uhggggg nothing worse than absolutely butchering a pretty simple problem.
 

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