Linear Algebra (Linear Transformation)

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The discussion revolves around determining whether the function T(x,y)=(2x+5y,-x+2) qualifies as a linear transformation from ℝ² to ℝ². Participants are examining the properties that define linear transformations in the context of linear algebra.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the criteria for linear transformations, specifically the conditions T(u+v)=T(u)+T(v) and T(a*u)=a*T(u). There are inquiries about the method of testing these conditions, including whether to use arbitrary values or a systematic approach.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on how to demonstrate the linearity of the transformation by suggesting specific vector pairs to test. There is an ongoing exploration of counterexamples to illustrate when the transformation does not hold the linearity conditions.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the assumption that they need to show their reasoning and provide counterexamples to validate their claims about the transformation's linearity. There is a focus on ensuring clarity in the calculations and reasoning presented.

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Homework Statement


True or False:
[tex] T(x,y)=(2x+5y,-x+2)\text{ is a linear transformation from }\mathbb{R}^2\text{ to }\mathbb{R}^2.[/tex]


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The Attempt at a Solution


I thought the answer was true, but the correct answer is false. Here is my reasoning for true:

T depends only on x and y and the transformation depends only on x and y, so it must be in the same space.
 
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Your reasoning is not detailed enough. Do you know how to check if a transformation is linear?
 
I think I do. If a transformation is linear, then:

[tex]T(\mathbf{u}+\mathbf{v})=T(\mathbf{u})+T(\mathbf{v})[/tex]
and
[tex]T(a\mathbf{u})=aT(\mathbf{u})[/tex]
 
DanielFaraday said:

Homework Statement


True or False:
[tex] T(x,y)=(2x+5y,-x+2)\text{ is a linear transformation from }\mathbb{R}^2\text{ to }\mathbb{R}^2.[/tex]

You need to show your answer though. A function [itex]T:V\to W[/itex] is a linear transformation if for all [itex]\vec u, \vec v\in V[/itex] and for all scalars [itex]r\in\mathds{R}[/itex],
[tex]T(\vec u+\vec v) = T(\vec u)+T(\vec v)[/tex]
[tex]T(r\vec u) = rT(\vec u)[/tex]
(You can actually combine these two requirements into one, but I think it is usually best to leave them separate early on.)

In your case, let [itex]\vec u=(x,y)[/itex] and [itex]\vec v = (u,v)[/itex]. (Don't get confused between my re-use of u and v.) You need to try and show that
[tex]T(\vec u+\vec v) = T(x+u,y+v) = T(x,y)+T(u,v) = T(\vec u)+T(\vec v)[/tex]
[tex]T(r\vec u) = T(rx,ry) = rT(x,y) = rT(\vec u)[/itex]<br /> <br /> If you can show this, then T is a linear transformation. If either of these two statements are not true, then T is not a linear transformation.[/tex]
 
Do I pick arbitrary values for u and v and then test them, or is there a more systematic way to go about it?
 
You pick arbitrary values just as I mentioned at the end of my last post.
 
Okay, so this is obviously not a linear transformation because the first component involves both an x and a y, correct?.
 
DanielFaraday said:
Okay, so this is obviously not a linear transformation because the first component involves both an x and a y, correct?.

I'm not sure what you mean by an x and a y. It's not a linear transformation because T(u+v) is not equal to T(u)+T(v). You probably need to illustrate that by picking two arbitrary vectors, and performing the transformations. You will then see that they are not equal.
 
I forgot, you need to show a counterexample.
 
  • #10
I get that they are equal. What am I doing wrong?

[tex] \text{Let }\overset{\rightharpoonup }{u}=\left(<br /> \begin{array}{c}<br /> 1 \\<br /> 0<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)\text{ and }\overset{\rightharpoonup }{u}=\left(<br /> \begin{array}{c}<br /> 0 \\<br /> 1<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)[/tex]

[tex] T(u+v)=\left(<br /> \begin{array}{c}<br /> 2+5 \\<br /> 2-1<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)=\left(<br /> \begin{array}{c}<br /> 7 \\<br /> 1<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)[/tex]

[tex] T(u)+T(v)=\left(<br /> \begin{array}{c}<br /> 2 \\<br /> 2-1<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)+\left(<br /> \begin{array}{c}<br /> 5 \\<br /> 0<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)=\left(<br /> \begin{array}{c}<br /> 7 \\<br /> 1<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)[/tex]
 
  • #11
Okay, I just happened to pick a case that works. Here is one that doesn't:

[tex] \text{Let }\overset{\rightharpoonup }{u}=\left(<br /> \begin{array}{c}<br /> 2 \\<br /> 0<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)\text{and }\overset{\rightharpoonup }{u}=\left(<br /> \begin{array}{c}<br /> 0 \\<br /> 1<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)[/tex]

[tex] T(u+v)=\left(<br /> \begin{array}{c}<br /> 4+5 \\<br /> -2+2<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)=\left(<br /> \begin{array}{c}<br /> 9 \\<br /> 0<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)[/tex]

[tex] T(u)+T(v)=\left(<br /> \begin{array}{c}<br /> 4 \\<br /> -2+2<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)+\left(<br /> \begin{array}{c}<br /> 5 \\<br /> 2<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)=\left(<br /> \begin{array}{c}<br /> 9 \\<br /> 2<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)[/tex]

Thanks for your help everyone!
 
  • #12
DanielFaraday said:
I get that they are equal. What am I doing wrong?

[tex] \text{Let }\overset{\rightharpoonup }{u}=\left(<br /> \begin{array}{c}<br /> 1 \\<br /> 0<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)\text{ and }\overset{\rightharpoonup }{u}=\left(<br /> \begin{array}{c}<br /> 0 \\<br /> 1<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)[/tex]

[tex] T(u+v)=\left(<br /> \begin{array}{c}<br /> 2+5 \\<br /> 2-1<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)=\left(<br /> \begin{array}{c}<br /> 7 \\<br /> 1<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)[/tex]

[tex] T(u)+T(v)=\left(<br /> \begin{array}{c}<br /> 2 \\<br /> 2-1<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)+\left(<br /> \begin{array}{c}<br /> 5 \\<br /> {\color{red}0}<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)=\left(<br /> \begin{array}{c}<br /> 7 \\<br /> 1<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)[/tex]
You might want to check the highlighted value ...
 
  • #13
Oops, you are right. Is this correct?

[tex] \text{Let }\overset{\rightharpoonup }{u}=\left(<br /> \begin{array}{c}<br /> 1 \\<br /> 0<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)\text{ and }\overset{\rightharpoonup }{u}=\left(<br /> \begin{array}{c}<br /> 0 \\<br /> 1<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)[/tex]

[tex] T(u+v)=\left(<br /> \begin{array}{c}<br /> 2+5 \\<br /> 2-1<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)=\left(<br /> \begin{array}{c}<br /> 7 \\<br /> 1<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)[/tex]

[tex] T(u)+T(v)=\left(<br /> \begin{array}{c}<br /> 2 \\<br /> 2-1<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)+\left(<br /> \begin{array}{c}<br /> 5 \\<br /> 2<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)=\left(<br /> \begin{array}{c}<br /> 7 \\<br /> 3<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)[/tex]
 
  • #14
DanielFaraday said:
Oops, you are right. Is this correct?

[tex] \text{Let }\overset{\rightharpoonup }{u}=\left(<br /> \begin{array}{c}<br /> 1 \\<br /> 0<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)\text{ and }\overset{\rightharpoonup }{u}=\left(<br /> \begin{array}{c}<br /> 0 \\<br /> 1<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)[/tex]

[tex] T(u+v)=\left(<br /> \begin{array}{c}<br /> 2+5 \\<br /> 2-1<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)=\left(<br /> \begin{array}{c}<br /> 7 \\<br /> 1<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)[/tex]

[tex] T(u)+T(v)=\left(<br /> \begin{array}{c}<br /> 2 \\<br /> 2-1<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)+\left(<br /> \begin{array}{c}<br /> 5 \\<br /> 2<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)=\left(<br /> \begin{array}{c}<br /> 7 \\<br /> 3<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)[/tex]
Much better :approve:

P.S. Nice use of latex
 
  • #15
Hootenanny said:
Much better :approve:

P.S. Nice use of latex

Thanks!
 

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