Linear Algebra Polynomial Vector Space

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The discussion revolves around determining which sets of real polynomials form vector spaces under standard operations, specifically using the subspace theorem. The sets in question include all real polynomials, those of degree less than or equal to n, and those of exactly degree n.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the definitions and properties of the sets of polynomials, questioning the implications of degree constraints on vector space axioms. There is an emphasis on understanding closure under addition and scalar multiplication, as well as the presence of an identity element.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the differences between the sets, particularly in terms of basis size and closure properties. There is ongoing exploration of the axioms required for a set to qualify as a vector space, with some members suggesting systematic checks of these axioms.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of considering specific cases, such as the implications of having n fixed, and the necessity of including the zero polynomial in the discussions of vector spaces.

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Homework Statement


Use the subspace theorem to decide which of the following are real vector spaces with the usual operations.

a) The set of all real polynomials of any degree.
b) The set of real polynomials of degree \leq n
c) The set of real polynomails of degree exactly n.


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I know how to do b) since the equation for the set of real polynomials of degree \leq n is:
Pn = {a0 + a1x + a2x2 + ... + anx2 | a0, a1, ... , an \in R }

And I can prove that it is closed under addition and scalar multiplication.

But I am not sure what the difference between the equation for b) (at most n) and a) (any n) and c) (= n) is.

Also I know b) is a real vector space but I would've thought that meant c) was too since b) includes degree = n. But the answers say a) is b) is but c isn't.
 
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you need to check through all the axioms systematically... for c) is there an identity element? and is it closed?
 
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to see the difference between a) & b) consider the size of a basis set
 
My problem is I don't know what the difference between the equations for the 3 different problems is in order to check the axioms.
 
ok so i would read it a polynomial of degree n, is any polynomial given by P_n = {a_0 + a_1x + a_2x^2 + ... + a_nx^2 | a_0, a_1, ... , a_n \in R}, when a_n is non-zero.

so
a) contains every Pm, for m = 0 to infinity
b) contains every Pm, for m = 0 to n
c) contains every Pm with m = n

though you also need to assume they contain 0... ie. in the n = 0 case, a_0 can be zero
 
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as some examples
x^3 + 1 is a polynomial of degree 3
2 is a polynomial of degree 0
and so on
 
You have to consider n to be fixed. Say n=3 for example. Then x4 is an element of a) but is not an element of b) or c); x3 is an all of them; and x2 is an element of a) and b) but not of c). Do you see why?
 

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