Linear Algebra/ powers of a matrix

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The discussion revolves around finding the 1000th power of a matrix A, specifically given in a 2x2 form. The context includes concepts from linear algebra, particularly the Jordan canonical form and matrix exponentiation.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the Jordan canonical form of the matrix and its implications for calculating powers of the matrix. There are attempts to compute A squared and to understand the correct method for squaring matrices. Questions arise regarding the correctness of the Jordan form and the process of matrix multiplication.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the proper method for squaring matrices and clarifying the nature of Jordan canonical form. There is an ongoing exploration of the calculations and assumptions made by the original poster, with no explicit consensus reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraint of not using calculators or computers, which adds complexity to the calculations. There is also a discussion about the nature of Jordan canonical form and its distinction from diagonal matrices.

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Homework Statement



Let A = row 1 [3/2 ½] row 2 [-½ ½]
Find A^1000 without using a calculator or computer.

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The Attempt at a Solution


I found the Jordan canonical form of A to be [1 ½] [0 1] and P=[1 1] [-1 0] and P^-1=[0 -1]
[1 1]
A^1000= (PJP^-1)^1000 so all the PP^-1 cancel and leave you with PJ^1000P^-1 then raise the terms of J to the 1000th power. I tried it for the 2nd power and it did not work so I'm assuming it won't work for the 1000th. Does anyone see an error?
 
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It worked when I tried calculating A2 using your matrices. Maybe you simply made an arithmetic error when you multiplied it all out.
 
vela said:
It worked when I tried calculating A2 using your matrices. Maybe you simply made an arithmetic error when you multiplied it all out.

OK when I square A I get [2 1] [-1 0] then when I multiply the other form, I'm squaring all the entries of the Jordan matrix which gives me [1 ¼] [0 1] then when I multiply
PJ²P^-1 I get [5/4 ¼] [-¼ ¾] which does not equal A².
Can you tell what I am doing wrong??
 
Wildcat said:
OK when I square A I get [2 1] [-1 0]
That's correct.
then when I multiply the other form, I'm squaring all the entries of the Jordan matrix which gives me [1 ¼] [0 1]
That's not how you square a matrix. Square it the same way you squared A, using regular matrix multiplication.
then when I multiply
PJ²P^-1 I get [5/4 ¼] [-¼ ¾] which does not equal A².
Can you tell what I am doing wrong??
 
vela said:
That's correct.

That's not how you square a matrix. Square it the same way you squared A, using regular matrix multiplication.

OK then I get J² to be [1 ½] [0 1] then PJ²P^-1 is the original matrix A when I do the multiplication. What am I doing?
 
Can you get a decomposition A = XYX-1 where Y is a diagonal matrix? The power of a diagonal matrix is very easy!
 
You said you had

J=\begin{bmatrix} 1 & 1/2 \\ 0 & 1 \end{bmatrix}

so you should get

J^2=\begin{bmatrix} 1 & 1 \\ 0 & 1 \end{bmatrix}
 
Outlined said:
Can you get a decomposition A = XYX-1 where Y is a diagonal matrix? The power of a diagonal matrix is very easy!

That is what I thought that I had done, but now I'm not sure. Does Jordan Canonical form mean it is a diagonal matrix with zeros everywhere except the diagonal?
I had PJP^-1 as the matrices listed with J being the Jordan Canonical form. Is my J not Jordan Canonical Form?
 
Wildcat said:
That is what I thought that I had done, but now I'm not sure. Does Jordan Canonical form mean it is a diagonal matrix with zeros everywhere except the diagonal?
I had PJP^-1 as the matrices listed with J being the Jordan Canonical form. Is my J not Jordan Canonical Form?

OH MY GOSH! I was making a stupid mistake! Ugh! I'm so sorry I took up your time! But Thank you soooooo much!
 
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Wildcat said:
That is what I thought that I had done, but now I'm not sure. Does Jordan Canonical form mean it is a diagonal matrix with zeros everywhere except the diagonal?
I had PJP^-1 as the matrices listed with J being the Jordan Canonical form. Is my J not Jordan Canonical Form?
Jordan canonical form isn't a diagonal matrix. You can use it when you can't diagonalize the matrix, like in this case. If you try to diagonalize A, you'll find you can't because you can get only one eigenvector.
 
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Wildcat said:
OH MY GOSH! I was making a stupid mistake! Ugh! I'm so sorry I took up your time! But Thank you soooooo much!
Don't you hate it when that happens? :wink: Still, it's a relief when you finally realize it does actually make sense.
 

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