Linear Algebra Proof: c=0 Eigenvalue for Non-Invertible Matrix

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The discussion revolves around proving that a square matrix \( A \) has \( c=0 \) as an eigenvalue if and only if \( A \) is non-invertible. Participants explore the implications of non-invertibility in the context of eigenvalues and the kernel of the matrix.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between non-invertibility and eigenvalues, particularly focusing on the kernel of the matrix. There are attempts to define non-invertibility and its implications for eigenvalues, with some participants questioning the clarity of statements made regarding these concepts.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the definitions and implications of eigenvalues and non-invertibility. Some participants have provided guidance on how to articulate the relationship between these concepts more clearly, while others are working on establishing the converse of the initial claim.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of using precise terminology, such as "non-invertible," in proofs and discussions. There is also an acknowledgment of the need to clarify statements regarding the kernel and its role in determining eigenvalues.

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Homework Statement


Show that A has c=0 as an eigenvalue if and only if A is non invertible.


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The Attempt at a Solution


Let A be a square matrix (mxm). Then Av=(a1,1v1+...+am,1vm)+...+(a1,mv1+...+am,mvm).
Since an identity matrix is square, and Icv is an mxm matrix,
we have (a1,1v1+...+a1,mv1)+..+(am,1vm+...+am,mvm)
For (a1,1+...+a1,m)v1+...+(am,1+...+am,m)vm=Icv,
(ak,1+...+ak,m) must=c. But if the matrix is mxn, n>m
then we have (ak,1+...+ak,m+...+ak,n) which is>(ak,1+...+ak,m).
Unless all rows after m are 0 (making the matrix back to mxm)
all (ak,1+...+ak,n) must be zero along with c so that
Av=0=Icv=I(0)v=0.
 
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You don't need to write out any components of anything. Define what it means for a matrix to be noninvertible in terms of the kernel.
 
Dick said:
You don't need to write out any components of anything. Define what it means for a matrix to be noninvertible in terms of the kernel.
Hey Dick, hows it going? :smile: Anyway, in terms of the kernel, a matrix is noninvertible
if the transformation is not injective, so the kernel has elements besides zero.
So it is not just 0 that gets mapped to 0. Within the kernel are those vectors
in rows that become 0 after row reducing. So letting v be a 1xn vector,
and A having more rows than v but same amount of columns as v has rows,
we multiply and row reduce to see that the excessive rows become 0.
 
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Great, how about with you? Ok, so if the matrix is noninvertible there is a nonzero vector v such that Av=0. What does that tell you about eigenvalues of A?
 
Dick said:
Great, how about with you? Ok, so if the matrix is noninvertible there is a nonzero vector v such that Av=0. What does that tell you about eigenvalues of A?

If Av=0 and v=/=0 then A is the zero transformation of v if v is in the kernel. So for Av to =0
knowing v is not 0, v must be multiplied by 0 to get to 0.
Since Iv=v=/=0, and Av=0*v,
0*v=Icv=cIv=0*Iv=0*v
 
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evilpostingmong said:
If Av=0 and v=/=0 then A is the zero transformation of v if v is in the kernel. So for Av to =0
knowing v is not 0, v must be multiplied by 0 to get to 0.
Since Iv=v=/=0, and Av=0*v,
0*v=Icv=cIv=0*Iv=0*v

It's all in there, but it doesn't clearly answer my question. I think you mean to say simply, if Av=0 and v is nonzero then 0 is an eigenvalue because _______. Try and make a clear statement of that 'because'. Start with the definition of an eigenvalue and say why 0 is one.
 
Dick said:
It's all in there, but it doesn't clearly answer my question. I think you mean to say simply, if Av=0 and v is nonzero then 0 is an eigenvalue because _______. Try and make a clear statement of that 'because'.

v is not zero, so the eigenvalue must=0 Av=cv=0*v=0
 
Ok, so you've got "if A is noninvertible then 0 is an eigenvalue". Now do the converse. "if 0 is an eigenvalue then A is noninvertible".
 
Dick said:
Ok, so you've got "if A is noninvertible then 0 is an eigenvalue". Now do the converse. "if 0 is an eigenvalue then A is noninvertible".
If 0 is an eigenvalue, then there is some nonzero v in the kernel of A such that Av=0.
 
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evilpostingmong said:
If 0 is an eigenvalue, then there is some nonzero v in the kernel of A such that Av=0.

I would say "If 0 is an eigenvalue then there is a nonzero vector v such that Av=0*v=0. So v is in the kernel of A. Since the kernel is nontrivial A is noninvertible." Compare that with your version, which doesn't even contain the word 'noninvertible'. A proof something is noninvertible should probably contain the word noninvertible.
 
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Dick said:
A proof something is noninvertible should probably contain the word noninvertible.
Good advice!
 
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Dick said:
I would say "If 0 is an eigenvalue then there is a nonzero vector v such that Av=0*v=0. So v is in the kernel of A. Since the kernel is nontrivial A is noninvertible." Compare that with your version, which doesn't even contain the word 'noninvertible'. A proof something is noninvertible should probably contain the word noninvertible.

That makes sense :biggrin:
 

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