Linear Algebra: Solving AB=AC with Non-Equal Matrices B and C

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The discussion revolves around finding two 2x2 matrices B and C such that the equation AB = AC holds true, given a specific matrix A, while ensuring that B does not equal C. The subject area is linear algebra, focusing on matrix multiplication and properties of non-invertible matrices.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the implications of the non-invertibility of matrix A and discuss how to approach solving for the unknown matrices B and C. There are attempts to set equations to zero and find relationships between the entries of B and C.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on setting up the equations and identifying patterns in the relationships between the variables. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity involved in solving for multiple unknowns, and some participants have successfully derived specific matrices that satisfy the original equation.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenge of working with four unknowns and the implications of the problem's constraints, such as the requirement that B and C must be distinct matrices.

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Homework Statement



Let A=
[-1 4
3 -12]
Find two 2x2 matrices B and C such that AB=AC but B does not equal C .

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The Attempt at a Solution



I was going through my book, and am a bit confused with this problem. How would I solve this?

I know it's easy to prove AB = AC if B = C, as you could cancel the A's out by multiplying A^(-1) on each side if the matrix was invertible... but I'm not sure how to solve for the matrices B and C, given A if B cannot equal C. Any suggestions on how to begin this problem would be very helpful. Thanks!
 
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The matrix you are given isn't invertible, so you won't be able to solve for B and C by multiplying AB and AC on the left by the inverse of A.


Let B be a 2 x 2 matrix whose entries are (a, b) (top row) and (c d) (bottom row).
Then A*B = (-a + 4c, -b + 4d) (top row) and (3a - 12c, 3b - 12d) (bottom row).

Can you find values for a, b, c, and d, so that AB is the zero matrix?
Can you find another set of values for a, b, c, and d, getting another matrix C so that AC is also the zero matrix?
 
Thanks for the help!

This may sound like a stupid question, as I've encountered this problem before in this course... how would I solve for 4 unknowns in this way; I haven't taken Math for 4 years before Linear Algebra, so I'm rusty on how to do these types of equations.
I would set all equal to zero, and then...
 
It's a very simple problem.

AB=AC. It means A(B-C)=0. You can find the matrix B-C as the kernel of A. So we have infinite couple B,C.

Easy, right?
 
lubricarret said:
Thanks for the help!

This may sound like a stupid question, as I've encountered this problem before in this course... how would I solve for 4 unknowns in this way; I haven't taken Math for 4 years before Linear Algebra, so I'm rusty on how to do these types of equations.
I would set all equal to zero, and then...

I wound up with two equations in four unknowns, with one equation involving a and c, and the other involving b and d. That means that I could put in arbitrary values for c and d to get, respectively, a and b.
 
Hi Mark,

When you set all of them equal to zero do you see any pattern?

What if you solve the equations that have an 'a' in them for 'a' and solve the equations that have a 'b' in them for 'b'. Do you see a pattern now?
 
Great, thanks guys!

I set each to equal the zero matrix; so ended up getting a = 4c, and b = 4d. I used arbitrary numbers for C and D, and got two separate matrices B and C such that AB = AC...

for example, these worked out:
[4 8
1 2]
and
[12 16
3 4]

Thanks for clearing that up for me!
 
Thats it! Good work.

Also my appologies to Mark44, I see you were helping answering the question, when lubricarret was asking it.
 

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