Linear Algebra - Subspace Checks

[cowmoo32]

Homework Statement

Determine whether the following sets form subspaces of R^{2}

A){(x_{1},x_{2})^{T} | x_{1}x_{2}=0}
B){(x_{1},x_{2})^{T} | x_{1}=3x_{2}}

Homework Equations

checks:
Does zero vector exist?
Is the space closed under addition?
Is the space closed under scalar multiplication?

The Attempt at a Solution

I know B is a subspace, but I'm not sure why. I can check the zero vector and the scalar, but I'm not 100% sure how to define closed under addition.

Also, I know A is not a subspace. Again, I know how to check for the zero vector, but I'm lost on addition and scalar multiplication, at least as a general form.

 

[Dick]

Give me some examples of vectors in A.

 

[cowmoo32]

[1,0] [0,1] [n,0] [0,n]... one value has to be zero for x1*x2=0 I had the answers backwards. B is a subspace and A is not.

 

[Dick]

[1,0] [0,1] [n,0] [0,n]... one value has to be zero for x1*x2=0

Good! So check addition [1,0]+[0,1]=[1,1]. Is [1,1] in A?

 

[Dick]

[1,0] [0,1] [n,0] [0,n]... one value has to be zero for x1*x2=0 I had the answers backwards. B is a subspace and A is not.

To prove closure under addition take [x,y] in B, i.e. x=3y and [u,v] in B, so u=3v. You want to show [x,y]+[u,v]=[x+u,y+v] is in B. Can you show that?

 

[HallsofIvy]

Homework Statement

Determine whether the following sets form subspaces of R^{2}

A){(x_{1},x_{2})^{T} | x_{1}x_{2}=0}
B){(x_{1},x_{2})^{T} | x_{1}=3x_{2}}

Homework Equations

checks:
Does zero vector exist?

Not "does the zero vector exist" but rather "is the zero vector in the subspace"
The zero vector, <0, 0>, clearly exists!

Is the space closed under addition?
Is the space closed under scalar multiplication?

The Attempt at a Solution

I know B is a subspace, but I'm not sure why. I can check the zero vector and the scalar, but I'm not 100% sure how to define closed under addition.

Also, I know A is not a subspace. Again, I know how to check for the zero vector, but I'm lost on addition and scalar multiplication, at least as a general form.

If <x, y> and <u, v> are in A then we know that xy= 0 and uv= 0. Their sum is <x+u, y+ v> so we need to look at (x+ u)(y+ v)= xy+ xv+ uy+ uv= xv+ uy. Is that necessarily 0?
If <x, y> and <u, v> are in B then we know that x= 3y and u= 3v. Their sum is <x+u, y+ v> so we need to compare x+ u and 3(y+ v). Are they necessarily equal?