Linear Dependence of Vectors in R^3 with Variable Coefficients

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The discussion revolves around determining the values of \(\lambda\) for which a set of vectors in \(\mathbb{R}^{3}\) is linearly dependent. The vectors in question are \(v_{1}=(\lambda ,-\frac{1}{2},-\frac{1}{2})\), \(v_{2}=(-\frac{1}{2},\lambda ,-\frac{1}{2})\), and \(v_{3}=(-\frac{1}{2},-\frac{1}{2},\lambda )\).

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the method of forming a matrix from the vectors and the conditions under which the determinant of that matrix equals zero, indicating linear dependence. Questions arise about the implications of matrix independence and the role of determinants in this context.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the relationship between the determinant of the matrix formed by the vectors and the values of \(\lambda\) that lead to linear dependence. Some hints and guidance have been provided regarding the determinant and its significance, but no consensus has been reached on the final values of \(\lambda\).

Contextual Notes

There is mention of an "obvious" solution, which suggests some values of \(\lambda\) may be more apparent than others. Additionally, participants express uncertainty about the calculations and the implications of their findings regarding the determinant.

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Homework Statement



For which real values of [itex]\lambda[/itex] do the following vectors form a linearly dependent set in [itex]\mathbb{R}^{3}[/itex]

[itex]v_{1}=(\lambda ,-\frac{1}{2},-\frac{1}{2}), v_{2}=(-\frac{1}{2},\lambda ,-\frac{1}{2}), v_{3}=(-\frac{1}{2},-\frac{1}{2},\lambda )[/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution



I know that

[itex]k_{1}(\lambda ,-\frac{1}{2},-\frac{1}{2})+k_{2}(-\frac{1}{2},\lambda ,-\frac{1}{2})+k_{3}(-\frac{1}{2},-\frac{1}{2},\lambda )=0[/itex]

will have non trivial solutions if the vectors form a linearly dependent set. The problem is when I put this in matrix form with the lambdas on the diagonal I don't know how to reduce it to row echelon form.

Is that the correct thing to do? and how can I reduce the matrix with lamdas in it if so?

thanks any help appreciated
 
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hi kwal0203! :smile:

hint: if the rows of a square matrix are independent, then what can you say about the matrix? :wink:

(btw, i assume you've already seen the one obvious value?)
 
tiny-tim said:
hi kwal0203! :smile:

hint: if the rows of a square matrix are independent, then what can you say about the matrix? :wink:

(btw, i assume you've already seen the one obvious value?)

Is that something to do with the rank? I'm not up to studying that yet, I'm not sure what it means when the rows of a square matrix are independent. Does it mean the system will have no free variables when solving it?
 
first, have you done determinants (of a matrix) yet?
 
tiny-tim said:
first, have you done determinants (of a matrix) yet?

Yes I have done work on determinants
 
ok, then when is the determinant zero? :wink:
 
tiny-tim said:
ok, then when is the determinant zero? :wink:

Lambda=x

Using the first row of the Matrix I got:

X^3-(3x/4)+1/4, so the determinant is 0 when that equation equals zero.

Is that correct?

So x=1?
 
that doesn't seem to fit the obvious solution :confused:

can you show your calculations?
 
Thanks for the help I do understand this now. The system will be linearly dependent when the determinant is equal to zero so he question is essentially asking for what values of lambda is the determinant zero.
 
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tiny-tim said:
that doesn't seem to fit the obvious solution :confused:

can you show your calculations?

The answer in my book is lambda equals -1/2 or 1

I'm guessing -1/2 was the obvious answer? :)
 
  • #11
kwal0203 said:
I'm guessing -1/2 was the obvious answer? :)

yes … you can instantly see that -1/2 makes all three vectors the same! :biggrin:

(unfortunately, -1/2 doesn't seem to fit your equation :redface:)
The system will be linearly dependent when the determinant is equal to zero so he question is essentially asking for what values of lambda is the determinant zero.

exactly! :smile:
 
  • #12
tiny-tim said:
that doesn't seem to fit the obvious solution :confused:

can you show your calculations?

Oops it should be -1/4 in the determinant formula :)
 
  • #13
ok, that makes sense!

so it's x3 - 3x/4 -1/4 = 0

the way you solve it (since it's a cubic equation, which isn't easy)

is to notice that -1/2 is obviously a solution to the original equation, so divide by (x + 1/2),

and you get x2 - x/2 - 1/2, which you can easily solve (what is the third solution?) :wink:
 

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