Linear Differential Equation: Dropping Absolute Value Bars

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The discussion revolves around the topic of linear differential equations, specifically focusing on the justification for dropping absolute value bars when calculating the integrating factor for the equation (x+1)dy/dx + xy = e^(-x). Participants are exploring the implications of this step in the context of the natural logarithm and its domain.

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  • Participants are questioning the reasoning behind dropping absolute value bars in the context of the integrating factor. They discuss the role of absolute values in extending the domain of the natural logarithm and consider whether this affects the solutions of the differential equation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants offering insights and raising questions about the implications of dropping absolute value bars. Some guidance has been provided regarding the nature of the logarithm and its domain, but there is no explicit consensus on the justification for this step.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the lack of specified intervals for x, as this is not an initial value problem, which adds to the complexity of the discussion regarding the validity of dropping absolute value bars.

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I'm doing some practice problems, and with the help of my solutions manual and wolfram alpha I've worked out a solution to

[tex](x+1)\frac{dy}{dx} +xy = e^{-x}[/tex]

However, I don't understand why we can drop the absolute value bars when we calculate the integrating factor:

[tex]e^{\int \frac{x}{x+1} dx} = e^{x- \ln|x+1|} = \frac{e^x}{x+1}[/tex]

I understand that if we don't drop the absolute value bars in the last step, certain terms won't cancel when we multiply our equation by this integrating factor. But why are we justified in doing so? Usually we say something about how x > 0, but this isn't an initial value problem and x isn't specified to be in any particular interval. Can you please explain why we are justified in dropping the absolute value bars? How do we know that we aren't losing solutions when we do this?

(For a full solution to this see

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=(x+1)dy/dx++xy+=e^(-x) )

and click "show steps" under "Differential Equation Solutions".

Thanks so much!
 
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Try to think of the reason why the absolute value bars are there in the first place. And then try to reason out why they would be dropped when the natural logarithm is eliminated.
 
Well, I know the absolute value bars are there to extend the domain of the natural log function, which normally only has domain (0, +infinity). I guess what you're implying is that since [itex]e^{\ln x} = e^{\ln|x|}[/itex] this implies x = |x|, or [itex]x \geq 0[/itex]? Is that right?
 
I think It has something to do with the fact the the indefinite integral of 1/t is defined from 1 to x (because there is an asymptote at x=0), but if you are considering e raised to the power of that integral, I don't think there is a need to take into account the original complication. I'm really not sure now; you are asking a really good question. I'll look into it some more, but hopefully by then someone else will offer you a better explanation.
 

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