Linear operator in 2x2 complex vector space

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The discussion revolves around the linear operator T defined on the complex vector space of 2x2 matrices, specifically T(A) = BA. Participants seek clarification on the transformation's representation when C2x2 is identified with C4, particularly regarding the computation of T(A_{11}) and the matrix form of T. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding how the operator B acts on the columns of A and how to represent the transformation using a 4x4 matrix. There is also a focus on the correspondence between matrix entries and their vector representations, which aids in grasping the underlying mathematical concepts. Overall, the thread emphasizes the need for clarity in linear transformations and matrix representations in complex vector spaces.
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Homework Statement
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Let C2x2 be the complex vector space of 2x2 matrices with complex entries. Let
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and let T be the linear operator onC2x2 defined by T(A) = BA. What is the rank of T? Can you describe T2?
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An ordered basis for C2x2 is:
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I don't understand the following statement:
If we identify C2x2 with C4, then since
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, the matrix of the transformation is
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.

Could anyone explain this? Thank you.
 
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Do you know how to compute ##T(A_{11})##?
 
jolly_math said:
Could anyone explain this?
Which part specifically?

I think the 4x4 matrix should actually be the transpose of what you posted, but I might be missing something.
 
vela said:
I think the 4x4 matrix should actually be the transpose of what you posted, but I might be missing something.
This depends on if we consider representing the ##\mathbb C^4## space as row or column vectors and is therefore up to convention. Without knowing the convention used we cannot say if it should be transposed or not.

What should be clear is that the operator ##B## acts separately on each column of ##A## and therefore can be decomposed into its separate action on ##\mathbb C^2\oplus \mathbb C^2## as ##T(A) = T(a_1\oplus a_2)= (B a_1)\oplus(Ba_2)##. The question therefore can be handled by considering the rank of ##B## when acting on ##\mathbb C^2##.
 
Office_Shredder said:
Do you know how to compute ##T(A_{11})##?
No, I don't. I mainly don't understand how
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was created, and why this results in
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- I think there is more specific mathematical reasoning used that I can't see here. Thanks.
 
jolly_math said:
No, I don't. I mainly don't understand how View attachment 315063 was created, and why this results in View attachment 315064 - I think there is more specific mathematical reasoning used that I can't see here. Thanks.
If ##T(A) = BA##, what is ##T(A_{11})##? (Explicitly for the given ##A_{11}## and ##B##)
 
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Orodruin said:
If ##T(A) = BA##, what is ##T(A_{11})##? (Explicitly for the given ##A_{11}## and ##B##)
$$
\begin{bmatrix}
1 & 0 \\
-4 & 0 \\
\end{bmatrix}
$$. I think I understand how
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was created now. How does this lead to
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? Thanks.
 

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What matrix do you need to multiply the vector
$$
\begin{pmatrix} A_{11} \\ A_{21} \\ A_{12} \\ A_{22}\end{pmatrix}
$$
with to get the vector
$$
\begin{pmatrix}A_{11} - 4 A_{21} \\ -A_{11} + 4A_{21} \\ A_{12} - 4A_{22} \\ - A_{12} + 4A_{22}\end{pmatrix}
$$
?
 
Orodruin said:
What matrix do you need to multiply the vector
$$
\begin{pmatrix} A_{11} \\ A_{21} \\ A_{12} \\ A_{22}\end{pmatrix}
$$
with to get the vector
$$
\begin{pmatrix}A_{11} - 4 A_{21} \\ -A_{11} + 4A_{21} \\ A_{12} - 4A_{22} \\ - A_{12} + 4A_{22}\end{pmatrix}
$$
?
I think it's a 1x4 matrix, but I can't think of a specific one.
 

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jolly_math said:
I think it's a 1x4 matrix, but I can't think of a specific one.
No. You want to map a column vector with 4 entries to another column vector with 4 entries, which type of matrix do you need to use?
 
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Orodruin said:
No. You want to map a column vector with 4 entries to another column vector with 4 entries, which type of matrix do you need to use?
A 4x4 matrix?
 
  • #12
jolly_math said:
A 4x4 matrix?
Why? Can you motivate this answer?
 
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Orodruin said:
Why? Can you motivate this answer?
I'm actually not sure why. Could you please explain how
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was created? I can't seem to understand it even with hints. Thanks.
 
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jolly_math said:
I'm actually not sure why. Could you please explain how View attachment 315074 was created? I can't seem to understand it even with hints. Thanks.
So let us go back to the basics. For a 2x2 matrix
$$
A = \begin{pmatrix} a & b \\ c & d\end{pmatrix}
$$
and a column vector
$$
X = \begin{pmatrix} x \\ y \end{pmatrix},
$$
what is ##AX##?
 
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Orodruin said:
So let us go back to the basics. For a 2x2 matrix
$$
A = \begin{pmatrix} a & b \\ c & d\end{pmatrix}
$$
and a column vector
$$
X = \begin{pmatrix} x \\ y \end{pmatrix},
$$
what is ##AX##?
AX = \begin{pmatrix} ax+by \\ cx+dy\end{pmatrix}
 
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Right, so what is
$$
\begin{pmatrix}T_{11} & T_{12} & T_{13} & T_{14} \\T_{21} & T_{22} & T_{23} & T_{24} \\T_{31} & T_{32} & T_{33} & T_{34} \\T_{41} & T_{42} & T_{43} & T_{44} \end{pmatrix}
\begin{pmatrix} A_{11} \\ A_{21} \\ A_{12} \\ A_{22}\end{pmatrix}
$$
?
 
  • #17
jolly_math said:
I'm actually not sure why. Could you please explain how View attachment 315074 was created? I can't seem to understand it even with hints. Thanks.
There are (at least) two ways to look at ##2 \times 2## matrices. You can leave the entries in matrix form. Or, you can represent each matrix as a 4D vector. The text makes the following correspondence:
$$
A = \begin{bmatrix} a & b \\ c & d\end{bmatrix} \leftrightarrow (a, b, c, d)
$$This also gives us a correspondence between two reprsentations of the basis matrices/vectors:
$$
A_{11} = \begin{bmatrix} 1 & 0 \\ 0 & 0\end{bmatrix} \leftrightarrow (1, 0, 0, 0) = e_1
$$etc.
Now, take a linear transformation ##T## represented by the matrix
$$
M = \begin{bmatrix} 1 & -1 \\ -4 & 4\end{bmatrix}
$$We can find the action of ##T## on a matrix by matrix multiplication:
$$T(A) = MA$$And, we can find the action on each basis matrix:
$$T(A_{11}) = MA_{11} = A_{11} - 4A_{12}$$etc.
We can also write down the action of ##T## as a linear transformation of our basis vectors ##e_1## etc.
$$Te_1 = e_1 - 4e_2$$etc.
Finally, we can express ##T## as a linear transformation on the vector representation by a ##4 \times 4## matrix. And that is the matrix that so mysteriously appeared in the text.
 
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Orodruin said:
Right, so what is
$$
\begin{pmatrix}T_{11} & T_{12} & T_{13} & T_{14} \\T_{21} & T_{22} & T_{23} & T_{24} \\T_{31} & T_{32} & T_{33} & T_{34} \\T_{41} & T_{42} & T_{43} & T_{44} \end{pmatrix}
\begin{pmatrix} A_{11} \\ A_{21} \\ A_{12} \\ A_{22}\end{pmatrix}
$$
?
I was working on my reply when you posted this. I did feel the OP was struggling fundamentally with the concept of representing a ##2 \times 2## matrix by a 4D vector.
 
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Thank you so much, it makes sense now!
 
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