Linear System Solution Method and Validity

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The discussion revolves around solving a linear system of equations involving three variables (x, y, z) and three equations with arbitrary constants (a, b, c). Participants are exploring methods of solution and the validity of their approaches.

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  • Participants discuss using elimination and Cramer's rule to find solutions. There are attempts to verify solutions by substituting back into the original equations. Some participants express uncertainty about the correctness of their results and seek validation of their methods.

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Some participants have provided feedback on each other's calculations, noting discrepancies in their results. There is an ongoing exploration of different methods, with some suggesting a return to foundational steps to identify errors. Guidance has been offered regarding the use of determinants and matrix representation.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the extent of assistance they can provide to one another. There is a focus on ensuring that the methods used are valid and that assumptions made during the problem-solving process are questioned.

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Homework Statement


Find all solutions of the linear system
x + 2y + 3z = a
x + 3y + 8z = b
x + 2y + 2z = c
where a,b, and c are arbitrary constants.

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The Attempt at a Solution


Using elimination, I managed to set the coefficients on the diagonal equal to 1, which then allowed me to solve for z, which was z = -c + a. Substituting z into the other equations to obtain x and y, I ended up with the following solution:
x= -6a - 2b + 13c
y = b + 4a -5c
z = a - c
I was wondering if my method of solving is valid, and if the answer I obtained seems reasonable. Thanks.
 
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yango_17 said:

Homework Statement


Find all solutions of the linear system
x + 2y + 3z = a
x + 3y + 8z = b
x + 2y + 2z = c
where a,b, and c are arbitrary constants.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


Using elimination, I managed to set the coefficients on the diagonal equal to 1, which then allowed me to solve for z, which was z = -c + a. Substituting z into the other equations to obtain x and y, I ended up with the following solution:
x= -6a - 2b + 13c
y = b + 4a -5c
z = a - c
I was wondering if my method of solving is valid, and if the answer I obtained seems reasonable. Thanks.

Your z looks correct, but I get something different for y and x. Recheck your work, and I'll recheck mine.
 
I plugged my values back into the original system and the equalities don't match up. Now I'm just trying to find out where my mistake was.
 
yango_17 said:
I plugged my values back into the original system and the equalities don't match up. Now I'm just trying to find out where my mistake was.

I just redid it, your Z is correct, so start back from there. I'm assuming you just made a calculation error with y. Your a is positive (and smaller than it should be), while it should be negative. Same deal with your C.
 
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Hey did you manage to solve this ...please help wit the proceedure
 
Faithp said:
Hey did you manage to solve this ...please help wit the proceedure
Write it as a matrix and do Gaussian elimination.
 
If you know how to evaluate determinants, you can solve this problem quite easily using Cramer's rule. Express the coefficients of x,y,z as a determinant:$$\Delta =\begin {vmatrix}
1&2&3 \\
1&3&8\\
1&2&2\\
\end {vmatrix}=-1\\
\Delta_x =
\begin {vmatrix}
a&2&3 \\
b&3&8\\
c&2&2\\
\end {vmatrix}=-10a+2b+7c\\
\Delta_y=
\begin {vmatrix}
1&a&3 \\
1&b&8\\
1&c&2\\
\end {vmatrix}=-6a+b+5c\\
\Delta_z=
\begin {vmatrix}
1&2&a \\
1&3&b\\
1&2&c\\
\end {vmatrix}=-a+c\\
$$Cramer's rule:
$$
x =\frac{\Delta_x}{\Delta}=10a-2b-7c\\
y=\frac{\Delta_y}{\Delta}=-6a+b+5c\\
z=\frac{\Delta_z}{\Delta}=a-c
$$
 
All unnecessarily effortful. You should be able to see how by the special features of this set of equations you can solve it like lightning!
 

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