Linear Transformation P2 > R^2

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The problem involves finding a representation matrix for a linear transformation from the space of polynomials of degree at most 2, P^2, to R^2. The transformation is defined by integrating the polynomial and evaluating it at zero.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the representation of polynomials in P^2 and the implications of the transformation. Some express confusion about the mapping and the role of the integral, while others attempt to clarify the necessary conditions for the transformation.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the correct interpretation of the transformation and its requirements. Some participants have provided insights into the need for specifying an interval for the integral, which has led to further clarification of the problem setup.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the transformation's definition may require integration over a specific interval, which has implications for the resulting matrix representation. There is acknowledgment of the potential for misunderstanding regarding the mapping of polynomial expressions to R^2.

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Homework Statement



If L( p(x) ) = [ integral (p(x)) dx , p(0) ]

find representation matrix A such that

L (a + bx) = A[a b]^T

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The Attempt at a Solution


I don't quite understand the question.
I think that:
if the base from p2 is {1, x} then any vector in p2 is of the form a + bx.
Then I can find L(a) = (a1 , a2) and L(bx) = (a3 , a4)
And use it to get A?

Can someone re phrase the question for me?
 
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Given: L(p(x)) = \left[\begin{array}{c}\int p(x)dx\\p(0)\end{array}\right]

Put L(ax+b) = \left[\begin{array}{c}\int (ax+b)dx\\b\end{array}\right]

keeping going... the goal is to come up with a matrix A such that A\left[\begin{array}{cc}a&b\end{array}\right]^T equals the right-hand side of the last equation.
 
benorin said:
Given: L(p(x)) = \left[\begin{array}{c}\int p(x)dx\\p(0)\end{array}\right]

Put L(ax+b) = \left[\begin{array}{c}\int (ax+b)dx\\b\end{array}\right]

keeping going... the goal is to come up with a matrix A such that A\left[\begin{array}{cc}a&b\end{array}\right]^T equals the right-hand side of the last equation.

L(ax+b) => \left[\begin{array}{cc}x&x^2 / 2 \\0&1\end{array}\right] [\begin{array}{c}\ \alpha\\ \beta \end{array} \right]
 
I think you're missing something important: the map is supposed to go from P^2 to R^2, so you can't map ax+b as you claim as the integral in the first coordinate yields (infinitely many) polynomial expressions. Surely the integral should be over some interval (I'd suggest the integral from 0 to 1 as the most likely).

Your matrix in the last post can't make sense, since it implies that the polynomial variables are allowed to appear in the positions in vectors in R^2.
 
matt grime said:
I think you're missing something important: the map is supposed to go from P^2 to R^2, so you can't map ax+b as you claim as the integral in the first coordinate yields (infinitely many) polynomial expressions. Surely the integral should be over some interval (I'd suggest the integral from 0 to 1 as the most likely).

Your matrix in the last post can't make sense, since it implies that the polynomial variables are allowed to appear in the positions in vectors in R^2.

yup that was it.. I missed the interval, so the xs turned out to be 1's

thanks
 

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