Listing Possible RREF Matrix Combinations

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The discussion focuses on identifying all possible combinations of a 2 x 3 matrix in reduced row echelon form (RREF) using the values 1, 0, and any number represented by *. One participant claims to have found 13 combinations but questions the accuracy due to a lack of examples for 2 x 3 matrices. Another contributor suggests that the count may be overestimated, emphasizing that cases should not be counted separately if they can be derived from one another by replacing * with 0s and 1s. A general formula proposed indicates that there should only be 7 unique combinations for a 2 x 3 matrix in RREF. The conversation highlights the need for clarity in counting unique matrix forms and the importance of adhering to forum rules regarding homework assistance.
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Homework Statement


Using the values 1, 0, and *(to represent any number), list all the possible combinations that could result from performing reduced row echelon form on a 2 x 3 matrix.




Homework Equations


Instructor 2 x 2 matrix example:
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The Attempt at a Solution


I have found 13 different combinations:
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but we have no examples beyond the 2 x 2 matrix so I haven't been able to attempt to model an equation(since I can't find a theorem or definition that models this) to predict the number of combinations I should find for a 2 x 3 matrix.

Any help in determining if this is the correct amount of combinations for a 2 x 3 matrix that has been simplified to RREF or what ones I may be missing would be appreciated.
 
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Aryan patel said:
how to find all possible rref matrix for m*n matrix. how I create a formula for m*n matrix
Start by listing all the constraints that apply to such a matrix.

By the way, I believe @MDS was overcounting in the 2x3 case. You should not count separately a case which can be got by replacing some * with 0s and 1s from another case.
E.g
1**
000
subsumes
100
000

For 2x3, the general formula I get gives 7.
 
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Dhruv shrivastava said:
@haruspex what's your general formula
Do you also have this question as homework? If so, you need to show some attempt, per forum rules.
 
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