Lithium Hydride as energy source for Combustion Engines

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Discussion Overview

The discussion explores the potential use of lithium hydride as a hydrogen storage solution for combustion engines, focusing on its energy density, reactivity challenges, and practical implementation in vehicles. Participants consider both theoretical and practical aspects of this concept.

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  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that lithium hydride has a higher energy density than liquid hydrogen, making it a potentially viable storage solution for hydrogen fuel in vehicles.
  • Concerns are raised about the reactivity of lithium hydride, with one participant noting that it reacts violently with water, which could pose safety risks in the event of accidents.
  • Another participant mentions the historical use of magnesium hydride as a solid hydrogen fuel tank, suggesting that similar methods could be explored for lithium hydride.
  • There are discussions about the availability of lithium, with some participants highlighting concerns over its supply due to its use in batteries and other applications.
  • One participant suggests that lithium could be reused in this context, as it would not be consumed in the reaction, and discusses the potential for recycling lithium from disposed lithium-ion batteries.
  • Concerns about public safety are emphasized, particularly regarding the challenges firefighters would face in extinguishing lithium hydride fires.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the feasibility and safety of using lithium hydride as a fuel source, with no consensus reached on its practicality or safety implications.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include uncertainties regarding the reactivity of lithium hydride, the availability of lithium resources, and the safety measures required for its use in vehicles.

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Lithium Hydride contains more hydrogen per unit volume than liquid hydrogen does, so what is stopping us from developing a Lithium Hydride storage solution to supply hydrogen to a vehicle's engine?

The reactivity of the substance would throw up some substantial challenges, but compared to distributing gaseous Hydrogen, it seems to me that a solution that allows a solid substance to be used, with a higher energy density than elemental Hydrogen would be something worth looking at.

An easily swapped out combination Reaction Chamber/Storage Unit would need to be designed that would allow for the LiH to be mixed with water to release the hydrogen content for use as a fuel, and some way to input measured amounts of the LiH to the reaction chamber, but surely, this is do-able.

Lithium hydrides are white crystalline solids (m.p. 620 deg C), of generally salt-like physical character. The term "lithium hydride" may refer specifically to a compound of light hydrogen or may be used generically to refer any lithium-hydrogen compound regardless of hydrogen isotope. They are usually prepared by direct reaction between hydrogen and metallic lithium at elevated temperature. Lithium hydrides have low density (0.82 for LiH). Lithium hydrides have no known solvent. LiH reacts violently with water, producing hydrogen gas and have been used in the past for special purpose hydrogen gas generators, such as those used to inflate lifeboats. (Thanks to Corey Sublette for this detail).

Granted, there are some proliferation concerns with enriched Li-6 and even natural Li-7, but I can picture a car pulling into a station and having a (large) fuel cartridge replaced by a robot in a few minutes, from the same spot that a gas tank already sits in and something of the same size.

And all it spits out is water, so the greenies will be happy.

Thoughts?
Am I crazy?
Cheers.
 
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I've never thought of lithium hydride in this context. I do know, however, from my research about 35 years ago, that magnesium hydride was being used as a solid hydrogen fuel tank with a storage density of over 1gm/cm3. If you chill a block of magnesium, it adsorbs hydrogen; when you heat it, it releases the hydrogen again in gaseous form.
 
There's only so much lithium to go around. At one time, it was uncertain that enough lithium could be produced to supply the demand which would result from supplying batteries for all the electric or hybrid vehicles which would be manufactured to replace autos with conventional combustion engines. Besides batteries, lithium is also used for pharmaceuticals and as an alloying agent for lightweight metals, among other things.
 
You said it yourself. The reactivity makes it extremely dangerous as a general purpose fuel. Moisture from the air could cause the powder from to self ignite. Firefighters do not have at their disposal any traditional method to extinguish a lithium hydride fire once started, and with car accidents what they are, that could pose serious problems for public safety.
 
SteamKing said:
There's only so much lithium to go around...
The point from the OP is a reusable storage material. Unlike energy, the lithium would of course not be consumed, or likely even dispersed for such a use. 39 million tons estimated in global reserves.
 
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thanks mheslep, I saw some estimates of global reserves somewhere and I seem to remember that Lithium is one of the most common elements, though reserves with high enough % to be economical to mine are another thing.
And thanks again, I didn't consider the re-usable aspect of the elemental Lithium, of course, it makes perfect sense.. Maybe all those tons of disposed Li Ion batteries could be recycled for this use.
I envision something like a car wash setup, with a robot removing your used Fuel Cell and replacing it with a renewed one..
Too bad I can't register on Kickstarter, I'm not in the USA..
 
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