What is the Proof for Local Minimum and Maximum at First Derivative Equals Zero?

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The discussion centers on proving the conditions for local minima and maxima using the first and second derivatives of a function. It highlights that at local extrema, the first derivative equals zero, and the second derivative indicates the nature of the extremum. Participants analyze a specific function, deriving conditions for local minima based on the value of 'a' and the behavior of the function as x approaches zero and infinity. There is a debate over the correctness of calculations regarding the second derivative, with emphasis on ensuring accurate evaluations to determine the nature of critical points. The conclusion drawn is that the function has a local minimum when the second derivative is positive at the critical point.
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Homework Statement


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At local minimum or maximum the first derivative equals zero

The Attempt at a Solution


a) $$f'=2x-\frac{a}{x^2},~~2\cdot 2-\frac{a}{4}=0~\rightarrow a=16$$
Near 0 from the left a/x gets large negative values, smaller than for a=16. that's my proof for the local minimum.
The same for b).
But how to prove c)?
If a>0, f'<0 for x<0. so f decreases. for x>0 we found a minimum, and f''>0, so it holds water.
Similar reasoning for a<0. is this the way?
 

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Karol said:

Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


At local minimum or maximum the first derivative equals zero

The Attempt at a Solution


a) $$f'=2x-\frac{a}{x^2},~~2\cdot 2-\frac{a}{4}=0~\rightarrow a=16$$
Near 0 from the left a/x gets large negative values, smaller than for a=16. that's my proof for the local minimum.
The same for b).
But how to prove c)?
If a>0, f'<0 for x<0. so f decreases. for x>0 we found a minimum, and f''>0, so it holds water.
Similar reasoning for a<0. is this the way?
Part c doesn't ask you to prove anything -- just find the inflection point.
Part d is the "show" part. If there were a rel. maximum somewhere, what must be true?
 
Mark44 said:
If there were a rel. maximum somewhere, what must be true?
Then f'=0 and f''<0 there, and there would have been higher points.
The end points at infinity, both for x>0 and x<0 are higher.
$$f'=2x-\frac{a}{x^2},~~f'=0~\rightarrow x=\sqrt[3]{\frac{a}{2}}$$
$$f''=2x-\frac{1}{x^2},~~f''\left( \sqrt[3]{\frac{a}{2}} \right)=...=\sqrt[3]{\frac{4}{a^2}}(a-1)$$
For a>1 f''>0 at ##~\displaystyle x=\sqrt[3]{\frac{a}{2}} so it's a local minimum.
But for 0<a<1 f''<0
 
Karol said:
Then f'=0 and f''<0 there, and there would have been higher points.
The end points at infinity, both for x>0 and x<0 are higher.
$$f'=2x-\frac{a}{x^2},~~f'=0~\rightarrow x=\sqrt[3]{\frac{a}{2}}$$
I almost agree with the above.
Suppose there is a relative maximum at x = c.
Then ##f'(c) = 2c - \frac a {c^2} = 0## and ##f''(c) < 0##
Solving for c in the first equation gives ##c =\sqrt[3]{\frac a 2}##, the same value you show.

Karol said:
$$f''=2x-\frac{1}{x^2},~~f''\left( \sqrt[3]{\frac{a}{2}} \right)=...=\sqrt[3]{\frac{4}{a^2}}(a-1)$$
This part (above) is incorrect. ##f''(x) \ne 2x - \frac 1 {x^2}##
Redo your calculation for f''(x), and then evaluate f''(c) and see whether f''(c) can ever be negative.
Karol said:
For a>1 f''>0 at ##~\displaystyle x=\sqrt[3]{\frac{a}{2}} so it's a local minimum.
But for 0<a<1 f''<0
 
$$f''=2x-\frac{1}{x^3},~~f''\left( \sqrt[3]{\frac{a}{2}} \right)=...=6$$
So for every a, f holds water
 
Karol said:
$$f''=2x-\frac{1}{x^3},~~f''\left( \sqrt[3]{\frac{a}{2}} \right)=...=6$$
So for every a, f holds water
##f''(\sqrt[3]{\frac a 2}) \ne 6##, so your conclusion doesn't hold water. Also, if it were true that ##f''(\sqrt[3]{\frac a 2}) = 6## (which isn't true), then that would mean that the graph of f would hold water.
 
$$f''=2x-\frac{1}{x^3},~~f''\left( \sqrt[3]{\frac{a}{2}} \right)=2\cdot \sqrt[3]{\frac{a}{2}}-\frac{2}{a}=2\left[ \sqrt[3]{\frac{a}{2}}-\frac{1}{a} \right]$$
 
Karol said:
$$f''=2x-\frac{1}{x^3},~~f''\left( \sqrt[3]{\frac{a}{2}} \right)=2\cdot \sqrt[3]{\frac{a}{2}}-\frac{2}{a}=2\left[ \sqrt[3]{\frac{a}{2}}-\frac{1}{a} \right]$$
The problem is not that complicated. In part a) you supposed the function had a local extremum. How many values of a did you find?
 
Karol said:
$$f''=2x-\frac{1}{x^3},~~f''\left( \sqrt[3]{\frac{a}{2}} \right)=2\cdot \sqrt[3]{\frac{a}{2}}-\frac{2}{a}=2\left[ \sqrt[3]{\frac{a}{2}}-\frac{1}{a} \right]$$
Your work is incorrect right from the start. For one thing, you lost the factor of a that was present in the original function.
##f(x) = x^2 + ax^{-1}##
##f'(x) = 2x - ax^{-2}##
##f''(x) = ?##
If f has a relative maximum, f''(a) must be positive for some value of a.
 
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$$f''=2\left[ 1+\frac{a}{x^3} \right]$$
$$f''\left( \sqrt[3]{\frac{a}{2}} \right)=6$$
 
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Karol said:
$$f''=2\left[ 1+\frac{a}{x^3} \right]$$
This is f''(x)
Karol said:
$$f''\left( \sqrt[3]{\frac{a}{2}} \right)=6$$
So what do you conclude?
 
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f''>0 → the function hods water, so at the point of of f'=0, f has a minimum
But according to the answer:
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