Lock Gears Without Motor Power: Tips & Tricks

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around methods to prevent a plate connected to a motor via spur gears from rotating unintentionally when the motor is powered off. Participants explore various mechanical and electrical solutions to lock the gears and maintain stability in the presence of external forces, such as wind.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using a brake built into the motor to prevent back rotation when powered off.
  • Another proposes replacing the spur gear pair with a worm gear pair, which would not allow back driving.
  • Some participants recommend shorting out the motor instead of simply turning it off, which could create an electrical brake effect.
  • A suggestion is made to consider using a PTO/blade clutch from an old ride-on mower, which typically includes a blade brake.
  • Several participants express their intention to implement the worm gear solution while acknowledging the potential of other methods discussed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the potential effectiveness of using worm gears to prevent unintended rotation. However, there are multiple competing views regarding the use of electrical braking and mechanical solutions, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express limited knowledge of electrical systems, which may affect their ability to implement certain suggestions. The discussion does not resolve the effectiveness or practicality of the various proposed solutions.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in mechanical design, motor control, or those facing similar challenges in preventing unintended motion in mechanical systems may find this discussion relevant.

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SO, here is the case guys.
I have a mechanism to turn plate by a motor. Both motor and plate was connected through 2 spur gears.

But here is the problem,
when wind strike the plate, the plate start to rotate even without the power of the motor. What is the best way so i can prevent the plate to rotate when the motor in off condition? Is there any device to autolock the gear when the motor is off?

Thanks for the answer.. Have a good day :)
 
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I think this is usually done with a brake built into the motor.
 
You can replace the spur gear pair with a worm gear pair that will not back drive.
 
Some ideas...

Try shorting out the motor rather than just turning it off.

Worm gear drive.

If on a budget perhaps try the PTO/blade clutch from an old ride on mower as they usually have a blade brake.
 
CWatters said:
Try shorting out the motor rather than just turning it off.

x2

Assuming speed and/or power dissipation are not a concern, shorting the pins on the motor together when power is disconnected will cause it to "electrically brake." This would be easily implemented with an appropriate relay or switch.

Some more reading here: http://electricalengineeringtutorials.com/dc-motor-braking-methods/
 
jerromyjon said:
I think this is usually done with a brake built into the motor.
Thanks dude for ur suggestion. I've decided to use worm gear at my mechanism ^^
 
Dr.D said:
You can replace the spur gear pair with a worm gear pair that will not back drive.
Thanks a lot dude. With ur help I can realize my work. May God bless u :)
 
Mech_Engineer said:
x2

Assuming speed and/or power dissipation are not a concern, shorting the pins on the motor together when power is disconnected will cause it to "electrically brake." This would be easily implemented with an appropriate relay or switch.

Some more reading here: http://electricalengineeringtutorials.com/dc-motor-braking-methods/
Seems like a good idea, but I've decided to use worm gear at my mechanism. I will try to learn ur advise, maybe i'll need it in the future. Thanks :)
 
CWatters said:
Some ideas...

Try shorting out the motor rather than just turning it off.

Worm gear drive.

If on a budget perhaps try the PTO/blade clutch from an old ride on mower as they usually have a blade brake.
Your idea sounds great. But I've little knowledge on motor and electrical things. I'll try to learn it in the future. But thanks a lot for ur advice. For now I will use worm gear at my mechanism. Thanks a lot dude :)
 

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