Logarithmic and exponential equations

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The equation (2^x - 2^-x)/3=4 can be transformed into u - 1/u = 12 by letting u = 2^x. This leads to the quadratic equation u^2 - 12u - 1 = 0, which can be solved using the quadratic formula. The solutions yield one extraneous negative answer, confirming that only the positive solution is valid. The correct value of x approximates to 3.585, which is close to the expected answer of 3.595. The discussion emphasizes the importance of recognizing valid solutions in logarithmic and exponential equations.
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Homework Statement


(2^x - 2^-x)/3=4


Homework Equations



Using log or exponential rules

The Attempt at a Solution



First multiply both sides by 3 so 2^x-2^-x=12
I thought I could take the log of both sides then condense the log, but that is not right.

I also attempted to rewrite as 2^x - 1/(2^x) = 12 but I could nowhere with that.

I also attempted to do (2 - 2^-1)^x = 12
(2-1/2)^x = 12
(3/2)^x = 12

log(3/2)^x = log 12

x(log 3/2) = log 12

x= log 12/log 3/2 = 6.128

But that is not the right answer it is supposed to be 3.595 . Where did I go wrong?
 
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j9mom said:

Homework Statement


(2^x - 2^-x)/3=4

Homework Equations



Using log or exponential rules

The Attempt at a Solution



First multiply both sides by 3 so 2^x-2^-x=12
I thought I could take the log of both sides then condense the log, but that is not right.

I also attempted to rewrite as 2^x - 1/(2^x) = 12 but I could nowhere with that.

I also attempted to do (2 - 2^-1)^x = 12
(2-1/2)^x = 12
(3/2)^x = 12

log(3/2)^x = log 12

x(log 3/2) = log 12

x= log 12/log 3/2 = 6.128

But that is not the right answer it is supposed to be 3.595 . Where did I go wrong?

You can't do most of those things. 2^x - 1/(2^x) = 12 is a good start. Put u=2^x. Then 2^(-x)=1/u. Form an equation for u, solve for it and then find x.
 
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Ok, so u - 1/u = 12

so u^2 - 12u - 1 = 0

Do I use the quadratic equation to solve for u?

Sorry, but this is unlike any of the other equations we did.
 
j9mom said:
Ok, so u - 1/u = 12

so u^2 - 12u - 1 = 0

Do I use the quadratic equation to solve for u?

Well, if you were given that quadratic to solve, what would you do?

j9mom said:
Sorry, but this is unlike any of the other equations we did.

Then it's probably one of the harder questions that tests your ability to apply other methods you've previously learned to solve the problem.
 
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OK, at first I did not think I should do that, because I would wind up with two answers, but one is negative, which obviously is an extraneous answer because logs cannot be negative. So the other answer was 12.08 so the log 12.08/log 2 = 3.585 which is close to the book's answer.
 
j9mom said:
OK, at first I did not think I should do that, because I would wind up with two answers, but one is negative, which obviously is an extraneous answer because logs cannot be negative. So the other answer was 12.08 so the log 12.08/log 2 = 3.585 which is close to the book's answer.

Precisely :smile:
 
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I tried to combine those 2 formulas but it didn't work. I tried using another case where there are 2 red balls and 2 blue balls only so when combining the formula I got ##\frac{(4-1)!}{2!2!}=\frac{3}{2}## which does not make sense. Is there any formula to calculate cyclic permutation of identical objects or I have to do it by listing all the possibilities? Thanks
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