Logarithmic and exponential equations

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The discussion revolves around solving the equation (2^x - 2^-x)/3=4, which involves logarithmic and exponential concepts. Participants are exploring various algebraic manipulations and methods to find the value of x.

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  • Participants discuss multiplying both sides of the equation and rewriting it in different forms. There are attempts to apply logarithmic rules, and some participants express confusion about the validity of their steps. The use of substitution (u=2^x) is suggested, leading to a quadratic equation.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the quadratic equation derived from the substitution. Some participants are questioning the implications of potential extraneous solutions and discussing the relevance of their previous learning experiences in tackling this problem.

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Participants note that the problem may be more complex than previous equations they have encountered, which adds to their uncertainty in applying learned methods.

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Homework Statement


(2^x - 2^-x)/3=4


Homework Equations



Using log or exponential rules

The Attempt at a Solution



First multiply both sides by 3 so 2^x-2^-x=12
I thought I could take the log of both sides then condense the log, but that is not right.

I also attempted to rewrite as 2^x - 1/(2^x) = 12 but I could nowhere with that.

I also attempted to do (2 - 2^-1)^x = 12
(2-1/2)^x = 12
(3/2)^x = 12

log(3/2)^x = log 12

x(log 3/2) = log 12

x= log 12/log 3/2 = 6.128

But that is not the right answer it is supposed to be 3.595 . Where did I go wrong?
 
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j9mom said:

Homework Statement


(2^x - 2^-x)/3=4

Homework Equations



Using log or exponential rules

The Attempt at a Solution



First multiply both sides by 3 so 2^x-2^-x=12
I thought I could take the log of both sides then condense the log, but that is not right.

I also attempted to rewrite as 2^x - 1/(2^x) = 12 but I could nowhere with that.

I also attempted to do (2 - 2^-1)^x = 12
(2-1/2)^x = 12
(3/2)^x = 12

log(3/2)^x = log 12

x(log 3/2) = log 12

x= log 12/log 3/2 = 6.128

But that is not the right answer it is supposed to be 3.595 . Where did I go wrong?

You can't do most of those things. 2^x - 1/(2^x) = 12 is a good start. Put u=2^x. Then 2^(-x)=1/u. Form an equation for u, solve for it and then find x.
 
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Ok, so u - 1/u = 12

so u^2 - 12u - 1 = 0

Do I use the quadratic equation to solve for u?

Sorry, but this is unlike any of the other equations we did.
 
j9mom said:
Ok, so u - 1/u = 12

so u^2 - 12u - 1 = 0

Do I use the quadratic equation to solve for u?

Well, if you were given that quadratic to solve, what would you do?

j9mom said:
Sorry, but this is unlike any of the other equations we did.

Then it's probably one of the harder questions that tests your ability to apply other methods you've previously learned to solve the problem.
 
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OK, at first I did not think I should do that, because I would wind up with two answers, but one is negative, which obviously is an extraneous answer because logs cannot be negative. So the other answer was 12.08 so the log 12.08/log 2 = 3.585 which is close to the book's answer.
 
j9mom said:
OK, at first I did not think I should do that, because I would wind up with two answers, but one is negative, which obviously is an extraneous answer because logs cannot be negative. So the other answer was 12.08 so the log 12.08/log 2 = 3.585 which is close to the book's answer.

Precisely :smile:
 
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