Looking for a good book explaining physics of a quadcopter

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding a suitable book that explains the physics and equations related to quadcopter design, particularly for a master's project focused on atmospheric chemistry. Participants express a desire for resources that delve into the underlying principles rather than instructional guides for building pre-designed models.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks a book that covers the physics and equations necessary for designing a quadcopter from scratch, emphasizing a desire to avoid pre-packaged solutions.
  • Another participant suggests "Gibiansky A. Quadcopter dynamics, simulation, and control" as a potential resource, questioning the original poster's familiarity with 3D classical mechanics.
  • The original poster indicates a solid foundation in calculus-based classical mechanics but expresses a need to learn more about quadcopters, linking the project to their research in atmospheric chemistry.
  • There is a suggestion that a book on robotics or controls might be more beneficial, considering the original poster's focus on atmospheric chemistry rather than quadcopter-specific literature.
  • One participant highlights the importance of understanding local regulations regarding UAV operation, noting restrictions on altitude and line of sight.
  • The original poster mentions investigating the effects of rotor-induced vortices on trace gases and their potential reactions, indicating a complex and evolving project scope.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the best resources for quadcopter design, with some advocating for physics-focused texts while others suggest robotics or hobbyist guides. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the most appropriate literature for the original poster's specific needs.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexity of the project, with discussions touching on the intersection of quadcopter design and atmospheric chemistry, as well as the implications of local UAV regulations.

Chris Haskin
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I want to build and program a quad copter as a part of my masters work. I would like ot be pointed in the right driection on a good book. I do not want a set of directions to build a rc toy, I have those. I am interested in a book that will cover the basics and equations involved in calculating the lift needed so that I can figure out the motors needed, props, length of arms and so on. I want to design this from the ground up by myself not read what someone else has done. I really just want to find books that explain the physics and equations and then I wnat to apply them to my own work.
 
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I have a good basic knowledge of calculus based calssical mechanics from my undergrad work. As far as the quad copter goes I am a newbie but I would like to learn. I am working on adding another minor in electrical engineering to my undergrad degree in chemistry but I also want to connect this to my graduate work in chemistry. My main area of research is in atmospheric chemistry so my plan is to design this quad copter that I can attach sensors to for taking atmospheric readings in the lower troposphere.

Everything that I have found on the web has either been an instructional guide with everything already planned that you can just copy. I would really like to design an arduino based sensor array on a quad copter from scratch and I don't want to spoil myself with the answers until I really get stuck womewhwere.
 
Link supplied is straight physics - emphasis on modelling but you can use it for basics of design.
You basically want a high altitude quad-rotor UAV?
 
Yeah that sounds right. Depending on local law and what not. I have not checked with the FCC or local ordinances to see how high I am allowed to go. I will check out the link thank you for the input.
 
I think a book on robotics or controls might be better. But since your research is atmospheric chemistry, not quadrotors or robotics or the like, maybe just resources on hobbyist robotics or just straight-up "How to build a quadrotor" might be better...or just buy a kit :P

If you live in the US, the laws passed late last year about UAVs are that they are not allowed to operate above 500 feet (which might make atmospheric research difficult) and must stay in line of sight with the operator.
 
Thanks for the reply Jack. I have seen some of the hobbyist books and they are really nothing more than a shopping list and building instructions, at that point I would just buy a prebuilt model. We were just talking about this project today and one issue we are investigating is the vortex created by the rotors and whether or not the added energy will cause trace gases to react and then be only visible as products. I just got a couple books from the school library about helicopter aerodynamics and a couple regarding collecting atmospheric samples. It is a project that seems to get deeper and deeper. We do have a site already that air restrictions are different than the normal UAV regulations because it is part of a national atmospheric pollution campaign so that is where I hope to deploy the copter.
 

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