Looking for a source for equation for power

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The discussion centers around the equation for power, specifically the formulation P=(MxAxS)/T, where power is expressed in terms of mass, acceleration, gravity, displacement, and time. Participants explore the validity and source of this equation, as well as its application in contexts like strength training and physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks a source for the equation P=(MxAxS)/T, expressing confusion about the inclusion of gravity in the formulation.
  • Another participant questions the validity of the equation as presented, suggesting it may not make sense and encourages checking the source.
  • A different participant speculates that the original poster (OP) may have intended to refer to acceleration due to gravity, indicating a possible misunderstanding in notation.
  • One participant notes that the equation could apply to specific scenarios like elevators or hydro plants, questioning the need for a source for what they consider a fundamental equation.
  • The OP clarifies their background in strength and conditioning, indicating a lack of familiarity with physics and seeking a definitive reference for their work on power generation during squatting.
  • Another participant suggests looking at the history of the concept on Wikipedia, while expressing skepticism about the value of knowing who originated the equations.
  • One participant provides a general definition of power as the amount of work done or energy spent with respect to time.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the validity of the equation and its components, particularly regarding the role of gravity. There is no consensus on the correct formulation or the necessity of a source for the equation.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the potential confusion arising from notation and the context in which the equation is applied. There are unresolved questions about the appropriateness of the equation for the OP's specific use case.

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I'm trying to reference a source for the equation P=(MxAxS)/T. power=(mass x acceleration/gravity x displacement) / time. I can't find a source, any help would be great.
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ccameron666 said:
power=(mass x acceleration/gravity x displacement) / time.
How did gravity get in there?
Power is Work/time and that's Mass X Acceleration X displacement / time but it can be re-written in dozens of different ways. But that one, above, doesn't make sense to me. Check your source, perhaps.
 
I think OP meant acceleration/gravity in the sense that it's acceleration or acceleration due to gravity. Poor choice of notation is all. Probably.
 
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So, that would work for an elevator or hydro plant. What do you mean by needing a "source"? This is a pretty fundamental definition/equation.
 
Yeah sorry for the confusion, I have no study of physics I am studying strength and conditioning so very unfamiliar with these equations. I'm looking at the power generation while squating so I'm referring to gravity as the acceleration. I know this equation is fundamental and I am new to written work I just can't find a definitive place for my Harvard referring of it.
 
All I'm really looking for is who came up with this equations or a place I can go to reference it. A book, website or similar.
 
ccameron666 said:
All I'm really looking for is who came up with this equations or a place I can go to reference it. A book, website or similar.
To get a better understanding of power, start here: Power
 
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As far as who came up with them, you can start with the brief history on the wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy#History

I don't think there is all that much value in this and I'm not sure why you would want to know. It's largely just a history lesson that doesn't really have anything to do with the use of the concept. So I'd spend your time on Doc's link instead.
 
Power is simply how much work can be done , or energy spent with respect to time...
 

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