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The discussion revolves around a probability homework question concerning the selection of a programming team consisting of 17 women and 15 men. Participants explore the probability of selecting at least one woman when three individuals are chosen from the group. The conversation includes various approaches to calculating this probability and the reasoning behind them.

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  • Homework-related
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about their initial probability calculation, suggesting that the result seems too low given the higher number of women.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of interpreting the phrase "at least one woman" correctly.
  • Some participants propose using combinations to account for different scenarios of selecting women and men, such as calculating the probabilities for 1, 2, or 3 women chosen.
  • There is a suggestion to use the complementary probability method (1 - probability of no women) to arrive at the answer.
  • One participant calculates the probability of selecting no women and arrives at a final probability of approximately 0.908, seeking confirmation of this result.
  • Another participant confirms the correctness of the final calculation provided by the previous participant.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the initial approach to the problem, with multiple methods being discussed. However, there is agreement on the complementary method as a valid approach to finding the probability of at least one woman being selected.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express confusion regarding the correct application of combinations and the need to account for different scenarios of selection, indicating that there may be unresolved assumptions in their calculations.

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Looking for confirmation on probability!

Sorry, posted in wrong forum. It was a probability question which is why I posted it here. Can someone move it to homework section if need be. Thanks!
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Can someone let me know if I am doing this correctly, because the answer I am getting seems to small. I thought the probability would be much higher since the woman out number the men by over 50% and we are just looking for 1.

Question: Suppose that a programming team has 17 women and 15 men. Three people must be chosen to work on a special project. What is the probability that the group selected has at least 1 women in it?

My work:

(17C1) -> To choose 1 women
(15C2) -> To choose 2 men
(32C3) -> Total groups of 3 among all people

(17C1)(15C2)
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32C3 17 * 105
--------
4960

1785
----- = .360
4950 I've seem some examples where they subtract this answer from 1 which not looks more reasonable, but is it correct and can someone explain why?

ex.. 1 - .360 = .640

Thanks for any input!
 
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Read the statement carefully: at least one woman.
 
Ahh, so would I use:

(17C1 + 17C2 + 17C3) / 32C3 to account for having 1,2 or 3 women chosen? Or would I have to account for the 8 possibilities of women/men?

Thanks for feedback. I hope this doesn't get deleted for my lack of reading. I was just getting ready to erase it and repost..

DrClaude said:
Read the statement carefully: at least one woman.
 
Topgun_68 said:
(17C1 + 17C2 + 17C3) / 32C3 to account for having 1,2 or 3 women chosen?
Not quite. If you have for instance exactly 2 women, is the number of possiblities 17C2? Aren't you forgetting something?

And this might be a good time to use the other method you mention: 1 - something.
 
I'm forgetting the men.. So would it be..

(17C1)(15C2) + (17C2)(15C1) + 17C3
-------------------------------------
32C3

I was thinking of subtracting the result from 1. Do I have to account for no women..



DrClaude said:
Not quite. If you have for instance exactly 2 women, is the number of possiblities 17C2? Aren't you forgetting something?

And this might be a good time to use the other method you mention: 1 - something.
 
Topgun_68 said:
I'm forgetting the men.. So would it be..

(17C1)(15C2) + (17C2)(15C1) + 17C3
-------------------------------------
32C3
Right.

Topgun_68 said:
I was thinking of subtracting the result from 1.
Why would you do that? Calculate the value numerically and see what makes sense. There is a way to calculate the initial problem as 1-something. Can you figure that one out?

Topgun_68 said:
Do I have to account for no women..
Account in what way?
 
Hmm, I think I got it now.

1 - ((15C3) / (32C3)) = .908

So calculate the probability of no women from the total, than subtract it from 1.

I calculated it my long way above and I get the same answer. Can you confirm this is correct :<)

Thanks for your help on this.
DrClaude said:
Right.

DrClaude said:
Right.Why would you do that? Calculate the value numerically and see what makes sense. There is a way to calculate the initial problem as 1-something. Can you figure that one out?Account in what way?
 
Topgun_68 said:
Hmm, I think I got it now.

1 - ((15C3) / (32C3)) = .908

So calculate the probability of no women from the total, than subtract it from 1.

I calculated it my long way above and I get the same answer. Can you confirm this is correct :<)
That is indeed correct.

Topgun_68 said:
Thanks for your help on this.
You're welcome!
 

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