Looking to dissolve plant matter without affecting rubber.

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion centers on the challenge of dissolving plant matter in a hot tub's filtration system without damaging rubber seals or PVC pipes. The user seeks a quick solution after leaves clogged the system, expressing concerns about using harsh chemicals like sulfuric acid. Suggestions include using household bleach for safe decomposition, considering enzyme treatments for cellulose breakdown, and exploring the possibility of removing the pump impeller for manual cleaning. The conversation emphasizes the importance of balancing effective cleaning methods with the potential risks to the hot tub's components.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of hot tub filtration systems and components, particularly centrifugal pumps.
  • Knowledge of chemical properties and safety of household cleaning agents, such as bleach.
  • Familiarity with enzyme treatments for organic matter breakdown.
  • Basic plumbing skills for potential manual cleaning of the pump impeller.
NEXT STEPS
  • Research the use of enzyme cleaners specifically designed for cellulose breakdown.
  • Investigate safe chemical alternatives to sulfuric acid for organic matter dissolution.
  • Learn about the maintenance and cleaning procedures for centrifugal pump systems.
  • Explore best practices for using household bleach in aquatic environments.
USEFUL FOR

Hot tub owners, maintenance professionals, and anyone dealing with organic matter removal in plumbing systems will benefit from this discussion.

Preston Feagan
Messages
4
Reaction score
0
Hello! I'm having a bit of an issue here, and I came across this site while searching on how to dissolve plant matter. The thread I found had some ideas, but said a reason would be needed before any concrete advice could be given.

So here's my request - I need to instantaneously dissolve plant matter or at least, within a few minutes... Without damaging rubber seals or PVC pipe.

Here's my reason - while trying to help out and clean, one of my tenants popped the filter on my still full hot tub without disabling the pump, and as a result, about 30 leaves have been sucked into the filtration system, blocking the jet compression nozzles and sticking in the impeller.

I am still paying on this hot tub, and would rather not deal with an 800 dollar disassembly and cleaning fee. I've found a few spa chemicals meant to help, but they are more for lime buildup and the like, and although I'm sure those chemicals would slowly destroy the plant matter - I am worried about burning out the motor in the pump from the stems and veins getting wrapped up inside.

I've seen some mentions of sulfuric acid, and while I can buy a concentration at Lowe's, pouring it straight into my pipes seems... Ill advised.

Any help here would be greatly appreciated!
 
Chemistry news on Phys.org
Backflow.
Power washer .
Compressed air .
Bugs .
Rot .
Time .
 
I don't see how any of those would get plant stems unwrapped from an impeller.

Backflow is a moot gesture. Power washer would probably damage something with the proximity to the wall of the piping you'd have to utilize for any effective flow. Compressed air again will not help the impeller. Rot I have no faith in - leaves appear to be immortal when in water... Ever scraped along the bottom of a pond or seen a disused pool? Time I would agree with, but with winter approaching, I have to either winterize this thing while in the bitter cold - virtually impossible, or find a way to do this while it's still got hot water in it.
 
Pump impellers are usually pretty easy to remove (assuming its a centrifugal pump) for cleaning. Maybe not with your set-up however.

Rot and time will work, with high temperature they will work faster. Oxygen also helps.
Depending on the kind of leaves, draining and drying things out maybe make they brittle and crumbly (AKA friable) and easier to get out.
I would bet backflow would also be helpful, maybe with a hose rather than a pressure washer.

Unlimited money? Buy some enzyme that will breakdown cellulose get things to the enzymes operating temperature.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: Preston Feagan
Preston Feagan said:
I am still paying on this hot tub, and would rather not deal with an 800 dollar disassembly and cleaning fee.
BillTre said:
Pump impellers are usually pretty easy to remove (assuming its a centrifugal pump) for cleaning
So if some chemical approach that you hear about on the internet doesn't work and causes lots of damage to your pump system, how much will that cost to fix? And as mentioned, have you looked into doing the maintenance yourself (sweat equity)?
 
As a scientist of Field A, do you just go charging into Field B with no clue as to what you're doing? No? Then why would I? I'm not a plumber or electrician. I work with computers.

As for having someone here tell me something improper, I can easily do research on their suggestions myself to see if I'm comfortable doing it.
 
berkeman said:
So if some chemical approach that you hear about on the internet doesn't work and causes lots of damage to your pump system, how much will that cost to fix? And as mentioned, have you looked into doing the maintenance yourself (sweat equity)?

Also, technically, my tenant has to pay for it, it's in his lease that if he damages anything, he has to pay for it. He's been made aware of this at this point, he wasn't earlier. Nor was I to be truthful, my wife pointed it out.

Either way, it's a headache for me.
 
If anything, household bleach would be relatively safe (much safer than concentrated acids) and should speed up decomposition a bit. But I wouldn't hold my breath in anticipation of an instant success.

Have you tried contacting the producer of the hot tub? Perhaps they will have some suggestions.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: Preston Feagan

Similar threads

  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
3K
  • · Replies 19 ·
Replies
19
Views
9K
  • · Replies 15 ·
Replies
15
Views
4K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
3K
Replies
5
Views
4K
  • · Replies 23 ·
Replies
23
Views
6K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
4K
  • · Replies 39 ·
2
Replies
39
Views
15K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
7K
  • · Replies 82 ·
3
Replies
82
Views
28K