Lorentz invariant phase space and cross section

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The discussion centers around the derivation of an integral related to Lorentz invariant phase space and cross sections in quantum field theory (QFT). Participants are examining the transition from one equation to another, specifically how certain terms appear and the reasoning behind the use of spherical coordinates in the integration process.

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  • One participant seeks clarification on how to derive an integral in the context of QFT, specifically regarding the appearance of terms like (p_(f))^2 and the solid angle.
  • Another participant questions the meaning of p_f, suggesting it refers to the modulus of momentum vectors and connects it to the representation of three-dimensional vectors in spherical coordinates.
  • A participant assumes familiarity with spherical coordinate transformations in QFT and provides a reference for further reading.
  • One participant explains the process of integrating over the energy-momentum conserving delta function and discusses the introduction of spherical coordinates for the integration over momentum.
  • A later reply reiterates the explanation of integrating out the delta function and the significance of the solid angle in the context of the derivation.

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I did not understand one step in the QFT and Standard Model book from Matthew D. Schwartz.
Can someone please explain to me how can we obtain this integral in eq. 5.27 from eq. 5.26? I quite do not understand how is it possible to make this adjustment and why the (p_(f))^2 appeared there in the numerator and also why a solid angle appeared there suddenly.
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What is p_f ? is it the modulus of p3 (and/or p4)? I suspect "f" means final here...

If that is the case, then the reason why there is a solid angle measure is because any three-dimensional vector can be represented in spherical coordinates as modulus and solid angle.
 
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Yes, f means final. Can you please be more specific?
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The idea is to get rid of the "energy-momentum conserving" ##\delta##-distribution. To that end you first integrate over ##\vec{p}_4=-\vec{p}_f=\vec{p}_3##. This gives you (putting all the factors ##(2\pi)## and the factor 1/4 together and use ##E_{\text{CM}}=E_1+E_2##
$$\mathrm{d} \Pi_{\text{LIPS}}=\frac{1}{16 \pi^2} \delta(E_{\text{CM}}-E_3-E_4) \frac{\mathrm{d}^3 p_3}{E_3 E_4}.$$
Now you have to get rid of the energy-conserving ##\delta##-function. For this you note that
$$E_3^2=m_3^2+p_f^2, \quad E_4^2=m_4^2+p_f^2.$$
This means it's a good idea to introduce first spherical coordinates for the integration over ##\vec{p}_f##. The ##\delta## function can obviously be integrated out by the integral over ##p_f=|\vec{p}|_f##, and the final result is only to be integrated over the angles, which is denoted by the "solid angle", ##\mathrm{d} \Omega=\mathrm{d} \vartheta \mathrm{d} \varphi \sin \vartheta##, where ##\vartheta## and ##\varphi## are the usual spherical angular coordinates of ##\vec{p}_f##.

So finally end indeed up with Eq. (5.27) by using ##\mathrm{d}^3 p_f =\mathrm{d} p_f \mathrm{d} \Omega p_f^2## and then integrating over ##p_f## by substitution as explained in the next steps of the book.
 
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Thank you for your respond. It was helpful to me.
vanhees71 said:
The idea is to get rid of the "energy-momentum conserving" ##\delta##-distribution. To that end you first integrate over ##\vec{p}_4=-\vec{p}_f=\vec{p}_3##. This gives you (putting all the factors ##(2\pi)## and the factor 1/4 together and use ##E_{\text{CM}}=E_1+E_2##
$$\mathrm{d} \Pi_{\text{LIPS}}=\frac{1}{16 \pi^2} \delta(E_{\text{CM}}-E_3-E_4) \frac{\mathrm{d}^3 p_3}{E_3 E_4}.$$
Now you have to get rid of the energy-conserving ##\delta##-function. For this you note that
$$E_3^2=m_3^2+p_f^2, \quad E_4^2=m_4^2+p_f^2.$$
This means it's a good idea to introduce first spherical coordinates for the integration over ##\vec{p}_f##. The ##\delta## function can obviously be integrated out by the integral over ##p_f=|\vec{p}|_f##, and the final result is only to be integrated over the angles, which is denoted by the "solid angle", ##\mathrm{d} \Omega=\mathrm{d} \vartheta \mathrm{d} \varphi \sin \vartheta##, where ##\vartheta## and ##\varphi## are the usual spherical angular coordinates of ##\vec{p}_f##.

So finally end indeed up with Eq. (5.27) by using ##\mathrm{d}^3 p_f =\mathrm{d} p_f \mathrm{d} \Omega p_f^2## and then integrating over ##p_f## by substitution as explained in the next steps of the book.
 

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