LS-coupling for configurations with equivalent electrons

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The discussion revolves around the LS-coupling for configurations with equivalent electrons, specifically focusing on the np2 configuration and the determination of degenerate states within the central field approximation.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the values of magnetic quantum numbers for two electrons and question how these values lead to the calculation of fifteen degenerate states. There is a discussion about combining orbital and spin states and ensuring that only antisymmetric states are considered.

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Some participants have provided insights into the necessity of combining states and focusing on antisymmetry, while others are seeking clarification on the nature of antisymmetric states and examples for different electron configurations. The discussion appears to be ongoing with various interpretations being explored.

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There is an emphasis on the central field approximation and the requirement to consider only antisymmetric states, which may imply constraints on the types of states being analyzed.

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List the values of the magnetic quantum numbers ml1, ml2
ms1 and ms2 for the two electrons in a np2 configuration to show that fifteen degenarate states exists within the central field approximation.


ml can take values -1,0,1 i believe.
ms can take values -1/2 and 1/2.

how does this ad up to fifteen degenarate states?
 
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damaks said:
List the values of the magnetic quantum numbers ml1, ml2
ms1 and ms2 for the two electrons in a np2 configuration to show that fifteen degenarate states exists within the central field approximation.


ml can take values -1,0,1 i believe.
ms can take values -1/2 and 1/2.

how does this ad up to fifteen degenarate states?

You are doing as if there was only a single electron.

You must combine the two l=1 states to get the total orbital angular momentum.
Then you must combine the two s=1/2 states to get the total spin.
Now, you must make sure that you include only states that are antisymmetric.
 
Thank you, With your help i solved it.
 
nrqed said:
Now, you must make sure that you include only states that are antisymmetric.

Why do you only take in acount for the antisymmetric states?

Can someone give an exampel on how a antisymmteric states looks like for, 2 electrons and 3 electrons?

Thank you, Joqe
 

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