Magnetic dipole in a loop of wire

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a magnetic dipole situated in a loop of wire, with the objective of determining the magnetic dipole magnitude in relation to various circuit parameters. The context includes concepts from electromagnetism, specifically Faraday's law of induction and Ohm's law.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply Faraday's law and Ohm's law to relate charge, resistance, and magnetic flux. They express uncertainty about the correctness of their approach and how to find the magnetic flux.
  • Another participant introduces an equation for magnetic flux and relates it to the induced electromotive force (E) and current (I), prompting questions about the derivation of the magnetic field expression.
  • Confusion arises regarding the validity of certain expressions and the implications of the results obtained, particularly concerning exponential growth in the context of the problem.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring different equations and interpretations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationships between the variables, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or understanding of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating through the complexities of the problem without a clear resolution, and there is mention of a reference answer from a textbook, which adds to the confusion regarding the derivation and assumptions made in the discussion.

Saketh
Messages
258
Reaction score
2
This isn't a homework problem, I'm just doing this as practice.

Homework Statement



A magnetic dipole is oriented in a loop of wire of N turns and radius a so that the dipole vector is parallel to the normal of the loop. The loop is connected to a galvanometer, and the active resistance of the circuit is R.

The dipole is moved away from the loop, and in the process a total charge q passes through the galvanometer. Find [itex]\mu[/itex], the magnetic dipole magnitude, in terms of the given variables.

Homework Equations



Ohm's law
Faraday's law of induction

The Attempt at a Solution



From Faraday's law:
[tex] \varepsilon = -\frac{\partial \Phi_B}{\partial t}[/tex]

From Ohm's law:
[tex] \varepsilon = IR = \frac{d q}{dt}R = -\frac{\partial \Phi_B}{\partial t}[/tex]

Integrating, we get:
[tex] qR = -\Phi_B[/tex]

Where, I think, [itex]\Phi_B[/itex] represents the initial magnetic flux.

Now I have two questions:
  1. Is what I have done so far correct?
  2. How am I supposed to find the magnetic flux?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
[tex]\phi=B.A[/tex]
[tex]E=\frac{d\phi}{dt}=A\frac{\mu dI}{2adt}[/tex] as [tex]B=\frac{\mu I}{2r}[/tex]
[tex]E=IR=\pi a^2\frac{\mu dI}{2adt}[/tex]
Solve for I, and magnetic moment is NIA where I A is area vector.
 
Last edited:
I'm confused.

[tex]B=\frac{\mu I}{2r}[/tex]

How did you get this expression?
 
By the way, the answer to this problem (from the back of the book) is:

[tex] \mu = \frac{2 a R q}{\mu_0 N}[/tex]

I'm still confused -- chaoseverlasting, if I do what you said, I'm getting an exponential growth function, which doesn't make sense.
 

Similar threads

Replies
2
Views
1K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K
Replies
7
Views
2K
Replies
1
Views
2K
Replies
3
Views
2K
Replies
12
Views
2K
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 25 ·
Replies
25
Views
2K
Replies
10
Views
2K