Magnetic Dipole Moment and Angular momentum

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between the magnetic dipole moment of an electron in a hydrogen atom and its orbital angular momentum. Participants are exploring the equation M=(e/2m)L and its derivation, considering the definitions and relationships of various physical quantities involved.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to derive the relationship by manipulating equations related to angular momentum and magnetic dipole moment. Questions arise regarding the definition of electric current and how it relates to the magnetic dipole moment. There is also discussion about the assumptions made in the problem, such as the value of N and the implications of the electron's motion.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with various approaches being explored. Some participants are offering insights into calculating the current generated by the electron and its relation to the magnetic dipole moment. However, there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or solution yet.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of confusion regarding the definitions of current and angular momentum, as well as the assumptions about the system being analyzed. One participant also introduces a separate problem related to electric dipole moments, which may indicate a broader context of inquiry.

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Homework Statement


Show that the magnetic dipole moment M of an electron orbiting a proton nucleus of a hydrogen atom is related to the orbital angular momentum M=(e/2m)L

Homework Equations


M=NIA, Torque =MB, F=qvB=v^2/r, L=Iw=mrv=rp (where p=mv)

N=1 in this case I assume?

The Attempt at a Solution


I've tried every combination of everything I can think of. I started with solving for L as L=2mM/q (where q=e). Then I tried substituting everything I could think of in for L and nothing made sense. I also tried starting with M=Torque/B and substituting I*(angular acceleration) for torque but you just end up with vqr. I think I'm approaching this wrong, can anyone help.
 
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L=Iw

M=NIA

It is not the same I

How is electric current (I in M=NIA) defined?
yes N = 1.
 
A magnetic dipole is generated by a small current loop (the electron). Try working out the current that the electron generates then crossing that with the area of your little current loop.

Remember:
Current amount of charge per unit time

As you only have one electron, you just have to work out how many times it orbits the nucleus in one second, and multiply it by the electrons charge to get the current.

The dipole is then equal to M = I cross A (I couldn't find the cross symbol) and you can then remove the angular momentum to get the required result.

(This is a little bit of a fudge, but it seems to work)
 
What about m? Wouldn't that just give you M=ve/(2*pi*r) * (pi*r2)
 
Help me to sort out this problem:: Prove that, "integration over[J(r)dr]=del(p)/del(t)" ... where p is the electric dipole moment ... please as soon as possible, reply me ...
 

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