Magnetic Field and potential difference

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The problem involves the motion of electrons accelerated through a potential difference in a magnetic field, leading to circular motion. The context includes calculating the magnetic field strength, current through coils, and the required voltage for a proton to follow the same path as the electrons.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculations for the magnetic field and current, questioning the accuracy of the voltage calculated for the proton. There is exploration of significant figures and the implications of charge signs on voltage.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on significant figures and expressed uncertainty about the correctness of the voltage calculation for the proton. Multiple interpretations regarding the nature of voltage and its sign are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may include significant figure requirements and the assumption that the proton's mass is much greater than that of the electron.

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Homework Statement



Electrons are accelerated from rest through a potential difference of 351 V. Then these electrons enter a uniform magnetic field that is perpendicular to the their initial directon. Due to the interaction with the magnetic field, they move in a circular path of radius 0.743 cm.
a) What is the magnitude of the magnetic field?

The magnetic field was generated by a Helmhotz coil pair. You measure the coils and determine that the average diameter is 169 mm.

b) What is the magnitude of the current through the coils?

Assume a proton has a mass 1849 times greater than the electron. Its electric charge is the same magnitude as that of the electron, but it is positive instead of negative.

c) What voltage would the proton have to be accelerated through for it to move in the same circle as the electron in parts a and b?

Homework Equations



e/m = 2V/[(B^2)(r^2)] = [125(V)(R^2)] / [32(N^2)(u^2)(I^2)(r^2)]

N = 130
u = 4(3.14)(10^-7)
e = 1.6*10^-19C
m = 9.11*10^-31kg

The Attempt at a Solution



a) V = [e(B^2)(r^2)] / [2m] = 8.50mT

b) I = [125(m)(V)(R^2)] / [32(e)(N^2)(u^2)(r^2)]^(1/2) = 6.15A

c) V = [e(B^2)(r^2)] / [2(m)(1849)] = 0.190V

but the 0.190V part is wrong. why?
 
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If you are entering your answers online, you need to be careful with your significant figures. Using your answers from (a) and (b) I have a voltage of 0.189V to 3.s.f.
 
that still turned out to be wrong. hmm...what else could be the problem? can voltage be negative?
 
strawberrysk8 said:
that still turned out to be wrong. hmm...what else could be the problem? can voltage be negative?
That would make sense, since the proton and electrons have opposing signs.
 
thx so much!
 

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