Magnetic field: Bar magnet & coil. Number of Turns?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the magnetic field produced by a bar magnet and a coil of wire, specifically focusing on the number of turns required for the coil to balance the magnetic field of the magnet. The bar magnet has a magnetic dipole moment of 0.5 A m², and the coil, with a radius of 1.5 cm, carries a steady current of 0.836 amperes. The calculations yield a magnetic field from the bar magnet of approximately 4.444e-7 T and from the coil of approximately 1.17727e-7 T, leading to a conclusion of approximately 3.7752 turns needed for equilibrium. The compass at the origin continues to point north despite the magnetic fields present.

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Hey all, I'm new to this site, so bear with me here! First post woot!

Homework Statement


A bar magnet with magnetic dipole moment 0.5 A m2 lies on the negative x-axis, as shown in the diagram. A compass is located at the origin. Magnetic North is in the negative z direction. Between the bar magnet and the compass is a coil of wire of radius 1.5 cm, connected to batteries not shown in the picture. The distance from the center of the coil to the center of the compass is 9.9 cm. The distance from the center of the bar magnet to the center of the compass is 22.5 cm. A steady current of 0.836 amperes runs through the coil. Conventional current runs clockwise in the coil when viewed from the location of the compass.
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Homework Equations


Bmagnet= \muo/4*\pi*(2*\mu)/r3
Bcoil= \muo/4*\pi * (2*pi*R2I)/(z2+ R2)3/2})where mu_o/4 = 1e-7
mu= magnetic dipole moment =.5 A*m2
R= radius= .015

The Attempt at a Solution


I understand that Bmagnet= negative Bcoil to keep needle pointing north.
I have tried a couple things, but here is what I think it is, and want to make sure that I get it right.

Bmagnet
= 1e-7* [(2*.5)/.225)]
=4.444e-7

Bcoil
=1e-7*(2*pi*.0152I)/(.0152+ .0992)3/2
=1.17727e-7And my assumption that I would then proceed to divide Bmagnet by Bcoil to get the number of loops...
=4.444e-7/1.17727e-7

=3.7752 Turns

Is this right? or am I doing something wrong?
thanks!
(and sorry for the sloppiness/inconsistency of the formulas... I got tired of trying to fix it. still getting used to the formula inputs... esp greek letters)
 
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Hi tjvogel, welcome to PF.

What is the reading in the compass?
 
ah! I would forget the last sentence... Despite the presence of the coil and the bar magnet, the compass points North.
 

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