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Magnetic field direction

  1. Aug 28, 2009 #1
    here is the problem and solution:
    http://i30.tinypic.com/2w2mnap.jpg

    why they divide into two cases?

    then they find a magnetic field

    but we dont have any electricity flowing??

    the i recognized the formula for a magnetic field from a wire
    but when we find a the formula from the biotsavart law
    the only direction is dlX[tex]\hat{r}[/tex]

    there is no [tex]\vec{\theta}[/tex] there
    because thus in Cartesian coordinates the direction always changes

    how they get this theta direction thing??
     
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  3. Aug 28, 2009 #2

    gabbagabbahey

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    Remember, inductance is a purely geometrical quantity and is independent of the current flowing in the cable. This means you can apply any current you want, use it to calculate the flux and then divide by that current and the result will be the inductance. In that solution, they simply assume a constant current of [itex]I[/itex] flowing up the inner cylinder and down the outer (uniformly distributed over the surface of each cylinder), which makes the calculation simple. You could just as well choose a time varying current or a non-uniformly distributed current if you like, but the calculation will be more difficult and the end result will be the same.
     
  4. Aug 29, 2009 #3
    how to get the theta direction??
     
  5. Aug 29, 2009 #4

    gabbagabbahey

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    the theta direction points in the direction of increasing azimuthal angle, in cylindrical polar coordinates.

    [tex]\mathbf{\hat{\theta}}=-\sin\theta\mathbf{\hat{x}}+\cos\theta\mathbf{\hat{y}}[/tex]

    this means that the field circles around the wire....there are many derivations of this in pretty much every EM text
     
  6. Aug 29, 2009 #5
    i got here a similar solution

    http://i29.tinypic.com/hsuhde.jpg

    but here they didnt specify whether the direction is with theta or
    counter theta

    i dont know how to diside that
    with this new solution
    ??
     
  7. Aug 29, 2009 #6

    gabbagabbahey

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    Use the 'right-hand rule'.... point the thumb of your right hand in the direction of a straight current, and your fingers will curl in the direction of the field.
     
  8. Aug 29, 2009 #7
    thanks :)
     
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