Magnetic field. I on understanding this problem.

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The problem involves two long parallel conductors carrying currents and requires finding the resultant magnetic field at a specific point. The subject area is electromagnetism, particularly focusing on magnetic fields generated by current-carrying wires.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to visualize the magnetic fields and has drawn angles but expresses confusion about applying vector addition. Some participants question the representation of the magnetic field vectors and suggest using trigonometric relationships.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on vector addition and the geometry of the problem. There is an exploration of different interpretations regarding the direction of the magnetic field vectors and the use of special triangles in the context of the problem.

Contextual Notes

There is a lack of defined axes for vector components, which participants note as a constraint. The original poster also mentions difficulty with the mathematical aspects of vector addition.

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Homework Statement



Two long parallel conductors carry currents I_1 = 3.0A and I_2 = 3.0A, both directed into the page. Find the magnitude and direction of the resultant magnitude field at point p?


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I need help with this problem. The professor only provided the answer but not the steps. I'm having a hard time understanding what to do. I can do all the other problems, but when it comes to a problem like this (with having to apply vectors) I do not know what to do. Help me.

First I tried drawing the magnetic fields (figure 2). Then I found the angles - 23 degrees and 67 degrees.

I am stuck after this. How do I solve using vectors?
 

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what do you mean by tangential?
 
The B field around a wire follows circles - at distance r, the B vector will be a tangent to the circle, centered on the wire, with radius r.

Is ##\vec{B}_1## the field due to ##I_1## and ##\vec{B}_2## the field due to ##I_2##?
If so, they are pointing in the wrong directions. Please see the accompanying link.
 
oh yes, I am sorry. your correct. i miswrote the B1 and B2.
 
OK - so... do you know how to add vectors?
 
hmm is the special right triangle the triangle with the 90 degrees or is it the one with the added vectors?
 
i know how to add vectors like moving head to tail, but not very well when it comes to the math.
 
so at this point i would get a resultant vector that goes straight down. but I am confuse. do i do the x and y component for B1 and B2 separately or do i do the x and y component for the resultant component?
 
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To use x-y components you need to define an x and y-axis - which is not provided for you.
Instead you should use the head-to-tail triangle of vectors and your knowledge of trigonometry.

One special triangle you have is the pythagorean triplet 5-12-13 ... point P is at the right angle.
It is probable that the B vectors also make two sides of a special triangle. They do conveniently make a right-angle with each other. If the resultant vector does go straight down, then it must be 5-12-13 as well.

There are lots of ways of specifying the direction of a vector.
If you label the position of I1 as Q and I2 and R, then the straight down direction is the Q-R direction ... or "parallel to ##\overrightarrow{QR}##"
 

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