Magnetic fields outside a shielded power cable

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the behavior of magnetic fields outside shielded power cables, focusing on the effectiveness of shielding in containing these fields compared to electric fields. Participants explore the mechanisms involved, including the role of eddy currents and the construction of the cables.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that shielded cables primarily shield electric fields and not magnetic fields, suggesting that magnetic shielding would require a counter current to cancel the magnetic fields.
  • Others argue that the shielding in power cables helps contain magnetic fields, drawing an analogy to transformer cores that contain magnetic flux.
  • A participant clarifies that the return circuit conductor in the same cable provides an equal and opposite current, negating the need for eddy currents for magnetic field cancellation.
  • Another participant notes that the design of medium and high voltage shielded cables aims to maintain a specific electric field in the dielectric insulation to ensure reliability under physical stresses.
  • One participant mentions that non-magnetic conductive screens can contain magnetic fields at high frequencies due to the skin effect, but may be ineffective at low frequencies, as seen with coaxial cables.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effectiveness of shielding in containing magnetic fields, with no consensus reached on the mechanisms involved or the extent of shielding effectiveness.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight various assumptions regarding the nature of currents in shielded cables, the role of eddy currents, and the specific applications of shielding in different voltage scenarios. The discussion remains open to interpretation based on these factors.

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I was recently having a discussion about magnetic fields outside of a shielded power cable.

My understanding up to this point was shielded cables only shields electric fields and not magnetic fields which are associated with current flow inside a cable. For the shielding to shield magnetic fields it would need a counter current (Possibly Eddy Currents) equal in magnitude to cancel it out.;The line integral of the B-field along any closed loop is directly proportional to the sum of the currents.

His understanding was that the shielding helps contain the magnetic fields similar to how the core of a transformer contains 95% of the flux and all that escapes is leakage and is much smaller.

I was hoping for clarity on what the magnetic fields look like surrounding a shielded power cable.

Thanks
 
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Dublin said:
I was recently having a discussion about magnetic fields outside of a shielded power cable.

My understanding up to this point was shielded cables only shields electric fields and not magnetic fields which are associated with current flow inside a cable. For the shielding to shield magnetic fields it would need a counter current (Possibly Eddy Currents) equal in magnitude to cancel it out.;The line integral of the B-field along any closed loop is directly proportional to the sum of the currents.

His understanding was that the shielding helps contain the magnetic fields similar to how the core of a transformer contains 95% of the flux and all that escapes is leakage and is much smaller.

I was hoping for clarity on what the magnetic fields look like surrounding a shielded power cable.

Thanks
You are correct, and the other person is misunderstanding the shielding in power cords.

In the transformer analogy, there is a lot of high-mu ferrous material (the core) that mostly contains and guides the magnetic flux.

In a shielded power cable, there is a thin conducting metal foil wrapped around the three wires in the cable assembly (and the foil is connected to the ground pin). This is used to keep external E-field noise from coupling onto the power conductors, but more importantly it is meant to keep the common-mode (CM) RF currents on the power cable (generated inside the device powered by the cable) from using the cable as a radiating antenna. This is sometimes needed to pass Radiated EMI regulations.

Hope that helps.
 
Dublin said:
For the shielding to shield magnetic fields it would need a counter current (Possibly Eddy Currents) equal in magnitude to cancel it out.
The return circuit conductor is in the same cable and must have an equal and opposite current, so there is no need for eddy currents, the cancellation current is there in the cable. Like a twisted pair or a coaxial cable, three phase power currents and voltages also sum to zero. That is why all conductors of a transmission line must run in parallel together, passing through one conduit or one hole in a steel plate.
 
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May I mention that a non magnetic, conductive screen, such as Aluminium, can contain a magnetic field provided the frequency is high. In such a case, the eddy currents are confined near the inner surface of the shielded by skin effect, and to do not penetrate through to the outside world where they would radiate.
Ther are sometimes problems with coaxial cables at low frequencies, such as for video, where magnetic shielding is ineffective.
 

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