Magnetic flux density in the centre of a current carrying loop

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The problem involves determining the magnetic flux density at the center of a current-carrying loop of wire. The loop has a specified radius and is monitored using a Hall-effect probe, with a focus on the conditions under which the circuit breaker will trip if the current exceeds a certain threshold.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the appropriate formulas for calculating the magnetic field strength and magnetic flux density. There is an attempt to apply the Biot-Savart law and clarify the relationship between magnetic field strength (H) and magnetic flux density (B). Questions arise regarding the correct use of terminology and the derivation of the relevant equations.

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Some participants have provided guidance on deriving the magnetic field formula, while others have pointed out potential misunderstandings in the application of concepts. The discussion reflects a mix of attempts to clarify terminology and derive the necessary equations, with no explicit consensus reached on the correct approach yet.

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Participants note confusion regarding the derivation of the magnetic field formula and the appropriate use of magnetic field terminology. There is an acknowledgment of the original poster's struggle with the problem, indicating a need for further exploration of the underlying principles.

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Homework Statement



A current carrying loop of wire is being monitored using a Hall-effect magnetic field probe placed at its centre. The loop is in air and has a radius of 0.5 m. It is required to monitor the magnetic flux in order to trip the circuit breaker if the current exceeds 100 A.

What level of B measured by the probe will correspond to this trip threshold?

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The Attempt at a Solution



Would I be right in saying the magnetic field strength is: H = I/2*PI*r = 31.83 A/m ?
I tried to determine B using: B = uH, this gave an incorrect answer, 40 micro Tesla.

The given answer is 1.26*10^-4 T.

Can anybody point me in the right direction?
Thanks.
 
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Hmm

B= I \int_0^{2 \pi} \frac{\mu_0}{4 \pi} \frac{ r d \theta}{r^2}
B = \frac{\mu_0 I}{2 R}

You've got the wrong formula. Were you supposed to derive it? I can't remember working with Biot Savart in calc physics 2, so hopefully it's okay I gave it do you.

Also, why are you using H? I don't see anything about the magnetic field being in a medium with a new permeability. Furthermore, this isn't magnetic flux density :p, sorry for being rude but terminology can be important.
 
Ahh ok, thanks for the reply. I'd much rather you corrected me when I'm wrong :-)

I think I was supposed to derive it, but I have no idea where to start. This is causing me untold misery!

Thanks again.
 
Well, here's how you derive it:

Biot Savart law is as follows

dB = \frac{I}{4\pi}\frac{dl \times \hat{r}}{r^2}

You know that the magnetic field at the center of the loop will be up, by symmetry the horizontal components cancel out, which means the cross product of the differential length with the direction of the field is 1 (they are perpendicular/orthogonal/however you want to say it). We want to integrate over an angle, and similar principle as how a speed along a circle is w*r, the angular differential for a length is r d\theta. We know what r is because we are in the very center it's simply the radius of the loop R (if we were further up we would of course have to apply pythagorean theorem).

dB = \frac{I}{4\pi}\frac{R d\theta}{R^2}

From there it's what I posted.
 

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