Magnetic flux rule for calculating motional EMF

In summary, Griffith's attempt at a solution for Problem 7.9 does not specify a particular surface to be used when calculating the flux through a loop. He justifies this omission by citing the simplicity of the solution and the applicability of the solution to non-rectangular loops moving in arbitrary directions through non-uniform magnetic fields.
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Pushoam said:
How can one apply stokes' theorem to answer this question ?
Will you please give me some hint?
After looking at your pdf files I see that neither theorem is appropriate for proving that the shape of the surface enscribed by a contour (a loop) is immaterial. I have to apologize to you for going in that direction for so long but i did need to see those pdf pages.

In fact, either theorem requires the inclusion of a maxwell relation. And here's the problem with that: when dealing with moving media such as the loop of fig. 7.13 the maxwell relations are often irrelevant! The author himself points that out (p. 298 lines 8 and 9).

So, bottom line, I conclude that neither the Stokes nor the Divergence theorem is apposite to proving what he seems to be referring to. Referring again to fig. 7.13, the emf is generated differentially for every segment of the loop dl, so the attached surface is immaterial. The loop of fig. 7.13 is an example of where what I call the "Blv law" is the correct law to invoke, not any of the four maxwell relations: d(emf) = B⋅(dl x v) = (v x B)⋅dl. And so the total emf around the loop is just ∫(v x B)⋅dl. The shape of the surface has nothing to do with this integral!

As an example of where you luck out with maxwell is fig. 7.16. In this case emf = - dΦ/dt (based on maxwell's ∇ x E = - ∂B/∂t plus Stokes) happens to be correct but safer is to use the BLv law: emf = Blv based on the Lorentz law F = qv x B.
 

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<h2>1. What is the magnetic flux rule for calculating motional EMF?</h2><p>The magnetic flux rule, also known as Faraday's law, states that the induced electromotive force (EMF) in a closed circuit is directly proportional to the rate of change of magnetic flux through the circuit.</p><h2>2. How is the magnetic flux rule applied in practical situations?</h2><p>In practical situations, the magnetic flux rule is used to calculate the induced EMF in a circuit when there is a changing magnetic field, such as in generators and transformers. It is also used to explain phenomena such as electromagnetic induction and the production of electricity in power plants.</p><h2>3. What factors affect the magnitude of the induced EMF according to the magnetic flux rule?</h2><p>The magnitude of the induced EMF is affected by the rate of change of magnetic flux, the number of turns in the circuit, and the strength of the magnetic field.</p><h2>4. Can the magnetic flux rule be used to calculate the direction of the induced EMF?</h2><p>Yes, the magnetic flux rule also states that the direction of the induced EMF is determined by the direction of the change in magnetic flux. This is known as Lenz's law.</p><h2>5. Are there any limitations to the magnetic flux rule for calculating motional EMF?</h2><p>The magnetic flux rule is based on idealized conditions and does not take into account factors such as resistance and self-inductance in the circuit. In real-world situations, these factors may affect the accuracy of the calculated EMF.</p>

1. What is the magnetic flux rule for calculating motional EMF?

The magnetic flux rule, also known as Faraday's law, states that the induced electromotive force (EMF) in a closed circuit is directly proportional to the rate of change of magnetic flux through the circuit.

2. How is the magnetic flux rule applied in practical situations?

In practical situations, the magnetic flux rule is used to calculate the induced EMF in a circuit when there is a changing magnetic field, such as in generators and transformers. It is also used to explain phenomena such as electromagnetic induction and the production of electricity in power plants.

3. What factors affect the magnitude of the induced EMF according to the magnetic flux rule?

The magnitude of the induced EMF is affected by the rate of change of magnetic flux, the number of turns in the circuit, and the strength of the magnetic field.

4. Can the magnetic flux rule be used to calculate the direction of the induced EMF?

Yes, the magnetic flux rule also states that the direction of the induced EMF is determined by the direction of the change in magnetic flux. This is known as Lenz's law.

5. Are there any limitations to the magnetic flux rule for calculating motional EMF?

The magnetic flux rule is based on idealized conditions and does not take into account factors such as resistance and self-inductance in the circuit. In real-world situations, these factors may affect the accuracy of the calculated EMF.

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