Magnetic potential and inverse square law

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The discussion revolves around the expression for magnetic potential and its relation to the inverse square law. Participants are exploring the nature of magnetic potential, particularly in the context of magnetization and its mathematical representation.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are questioning the absence of the squared distance in the expression for magnetic potential and whether it can be considered to follow the inverse square law. There are discussions about the definition of magnetic potential as a scalar versus a vector, and the implications of this distinction on the interpretation of the equation.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the nature of magnetic potential and its mathematical formulation. Some have suggested that the expression is formally equivalent to the electrostatic case, while others are seeking clarification on how the inverse square law applies in this context. There is no explicit consensus yet, as questions remain about the interpretation of the equation.

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Participants are grappling with the definitions and implications of magnetic potential in relation to classical electromagnetism, particularly in magnetostatic scenarios. The discussion touches on the use of mathematical tools and analogies from electrostatics, which may not fully capture the physical reality of magnetic phenomena.

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Hi
I am in doubt about the lack of the squared distance r in the expression below:
v(r)= constant* int_vol div M /|r_0 - r| dV
M: magnetization vector
r : displacement vectors
Is it correct to say that magnetic potential V(r) obeys the inverse square law ? Or it is more correct to say that the inverse square law can be "infered" from the expression above?
thanks for your help
 
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First, let me retype your expression in LaTeX:

v(r)=k\int_V\frac{\vec{\nabla}\cdot\vec{M}}{|\vec{r}_0-\vec{r}|}dV[/itex]<br /> <br /> In the above, k is a constant. <br /> <br /> OK, now what does v(r) mean? You say that it is the magnetic potential, but the magnetic potential is a <b>vector</b>, while your expression above is a scalar.
 
The magnetic potential can be defined as a scalar or a vector, the magnetic potential (as is its electric counterpart) is used classically as a tool to compute the magnetic field, so depending on the problems as long as one still gets the correct B-field, it can be defined in a non-unique way. So the expression written is correct.

The scalar magnetic potential is mainly used for magnetostatic problems (refer to the corresponding chapter in Jackson), and has a form you typed. This is analogous to the electric potential (which is a scalar), and the -DivM corresponds to a "magnetic charge" coming from the magnetization of the material.

Back to the original question by hotel, this is equivalent to the inverse square law. The equation you've written is formally equivalent to the electric potential case.

Hope this helps,
 
why the magnetic potential is a vector?

And the other thing is could you (anyone) explain how the equation above is equivalent to the inverse square law?

Because I cannot see the indication of 'square of the distance' in the fraction inside the integral !

for example what is the problem with:
v(r)=k\int_V\frac{\vec{\nabla}\cdot\vec{M}}{|\vec{r}_0-\vec{r}|^2}dV[/itex] <br /> <br /> ?<br /> <br /> thanks, for your answers
 
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Though this is formally equivalent to the electrostatic case of Coulomb's law, I must emphasize this is only formal. This is because the magnetic scalar potential was only employed as a tool to compute magnetic fields, with -divM as the equivalent "magnetic charge", this "magnetic charge" is only defined for convenience to make calculations (borrowing from the electrostatic case) easier and obviously is not a real physical entity. So one cannot write a "Coulomb' law" with -divM in place of q.

Hope this helps
 

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